Former president tells Glenn Beck he would have ‘no choice’ but to lock up opponents ‘because they’re doing it to us’

  • @MyFairJulia@lemmy.world
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    18210 months ago

    We have Project 2025 out there literally announcing the end of democracy should a republican president be voted in. Their plan is to enact Schedule F which allows the prez to kick people from the senate and place his own chosen people there and to allow the prez to essentially take over the whole executive branch of the government.

    LIKE GODDAMMIT, THERE’S A DICTATORSHIP UNDER CONSTRUCTION! WHY ISN’T THIS EVEN NEWSWORTHY? WHY DOES THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOLELY FOCUS ON THE CLIMATE ASPECT ON PROJECT 2025? IT’S LITERALLY THE PLAN TO END DEMOCRACY! AND OF COURSE LGBTQIA+ PEOPLE!

    • Yoryo
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      Thought you were joking but it’s holy shit it’s real. The heritage foundation even has an article about it.

        • eric
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          3010 months ago

          Holy shit. Reality is so crazy lately that it seems more and more made up every year.

        • @MTLion3@lemm.ee
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          1810 months ago

          It’s fucking clinical, honestly. Like, how are even Republicans down for this shit?

          • @SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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            1610 months ago

            For the last 20 years Fox News and conservative media have been demonizing Democrats as anti-American and disloyal and trying to actively intentionally destroy America. They also are given this propaganda that they’re the real Americans and the only thing left to save the world, so that mindset gives them permission to end democracy to save their way of life.

            • @MTLion3@lemm.ee
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              Delusional. And then I know some of them have just always been republican so they keep voting that way regardless. Like, damn, wake up to the bullshit around you. This isn’t a matter of differing ideologies anymore - this is a matter of fighting for keeping the right to vote about those differing ideologies.

    • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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      Dude/dudette, I just want to say thank you for making us aware of this. It’s batshit, and it absolutely does need to be blasted on all channels.

    • exscape
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      10 months ago

      As bad as Project 2025 looks I couldn’t see anything about kicking out senators, “just” federal employees.
      Any sources on the more extreme claims?

      • @WindyRebel@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        You kick out the federalist that do things like, investigate overturning elections, and suddenly the midterms are all republican wins.

        From there, you have someone who can get power passed to change things like presidential term limits. Now you have a king or an emperor with a bunch of yes men backing him up in decisions. Eventually, they can institute whatever policies they want and force states, by force, to enact what they want with military power and courts who rule in their favor.

        Oh, but there are people in the military who will stand up and do what’s right? Well, they will be branded as wackos and enemies of the state who are speaking ill of the totally “legit” election. So they are put in front of a firing squad and all that’s left are those who already believe in Der Fuhrer.

        It’s a complete shit show in the making and fucking frightening what they could do with disinformation and no checks.

      • Yoryo
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        210 months ago

        You’re definitely right. I spent a good minute going through the guide but the most nefarious stuff was gaining complete control of the executive branch. This guide is like a first step for a first term. Well brb guys, going to figure how to take over the government with only the executive branch.

    • @gibmiser@lemmy.world
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      510 months ago

      Don’t lie or spread misinformation. The language says they would find ways to BYPASS the senate in some circumstances. Still terrible but disinformation will cause people to not believe the legitimate warnings.

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    10 months ago

    I was wondering if the actual quote was something more weaselly than that but nope.

    Beck: “If you become president will you lock people up?”

    Trump: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”

    • @LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Fascists always do the ole ‘he hit me first waah’ gambit. All you can do is ignore it and treat them like the crybabies they are.

      Perhaps if someone gives trump a dummy (binky) and rocks him gently we’ll all be able to sleep for a while.

      ‘It’s okay, you were the bestest president, sleep now, everyone lubs you. Shhh.’

      Followed by a brick.

    • @EnderMB@lemmy.world
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      710 months ago

      Honest question, but how is Trump still alive? He’s in his late seventies, apparently eats McDonalds most days with an ungodly amount of diet coke, and looks like he hasn’t exercised since the 80’s.

      He’ll be in his 80’s if he gets another term, and given his lifestyle, the stresses of business/politics, and the constant travel, I simply cannot see him continuing. I know Biden is 80, but at least he looks like he’s looked at a vegetable or had a brisk walk this year…

      • @danielton@lemmy.world
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        These geriatrics need to fucking retire. Gen X basically got shut out of federal politics, and the best-known millennial didn’t take federal office until 2019.

  • @Rusticus@lemmy.world
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    4010 months ago

    Well he campaigned on “lock her up” and despite nearly a dozen investigations and her testifying in front of Congress for 10 hours, guess what happened? Zippity doo daa

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      110 months ago

      If you’re expecting someone to actually enforce consequences on him for this you haven’t been paying attention.

    • @Zamotic@lemmy.zip
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      310 months ago

      I think all the other Republicans use projection. I don’t think Trump protects at all and legit believes what he is saying. He thinks everything he did was legal because he believes the presidency is infallible and rules above all else.

  • @JdW@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Apart from the whole dictator thing, they had the presedential power for 4 years and managed to lock up exactly nobody… Not saying they’re not dangerous but why would their base believe them this time, action should really speak louder than words with those simpletons and Trump has been all words.

    • @Red_October@lemmy.world
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      They didn’t lock anybody up, but they DID drain the swamp. And then they put the sludge dredged off the bottom in cabinet positions.

      • Walt J. Rimmer
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        2710 months ago

        Even if he goes to prison, which if he’s convicted there’s a good chance he gets something more similar to house arrest due to his position as a former president, he is 100% not going to be in general population. I believe he’s guilty and hope that if the trial proves that that he’s convicted. But people imagining him in the chow line in an orange jumpsuit are fooling themselves.

        • Bizarroland
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          Trump could rape a baby on Wall Street on video and he wouldn’t go into gen pop.

          I mean, if he did hopefully somebody would be nice enough to cap him, but he’s not going to go into normal jail like a normal person would under any circumstance.

        • @WarmSoda@lemm.ee
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          610 months ago

          Yeah he’ll 100% be on house arrest. No one’s going to throw a former US President in actual jail.

        • @DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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          610 months ago

          If there’s a spectrum between chow line and house arrest I would’ve thought he’d be a little closer to the chow line end than kicking back at mar-a-lago.

          Like segregation or something? There has to be at least the appearance of “one justice”.

        • pensa
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          410 months ago

          If nothing else I’ll settle for him officially being barred from holding office.

        • @APassenger@lemmy.world
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          310 months ago

          Appeals will take years, if granted. And I bet he’ll find ways or sympathetic judges.

          It, at least, cannot be ruled out. A conviction is the end of the first chapter.

          • Walt J. Rimmer
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            110 months ago

            Federal appeals are more difficult and more rare. The state charges he’ll have an easier time appealing against, though. Lots of questions still up in the air about how all that will go, though. Unless he’s barred from office, there’s a chance he does become president again, which would make things incredibly complicated. There’s also the question of him appealing to the Supreme Court and them simply overturning anything they can that’s been brought against him. I find these unlikely, but they’re possible. For the USA, this is the first time someone in that high of an office has gone to trial like this, and we’re going to be having to make some answers on the spot.

    • @xkforce@lemmy.world
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      The last thing anyone needs is for that brain dead cheeto to be seen by his supporters as a martyr.

    • @cabron_offsets@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Traitor is going to ADX Florence probably. 23 h/day in a cage by himself. No chance an inmate will lay hands on him. All the better, he should live his remaining years in misery and humiliation.

      Edit: to all those who think he’s gonna kick it at mar-a-fucko, where any Chinese or Russian agent can visit, are you aware that he’s being charged under the Espionage Act?

  • Queen HawlSera
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    10 months ago

    Once again the Right is accusing the Left of things the Right wants to do.

    Pretty sneaky trick really.

    Say your enemy is going to do something

    Do it

    Get told “Hey you’re doing X”

    Tell them “Projecting much? Everyone knows you’re the one who’s doing X, I even said so before you accused me of anything!”

  • Teon
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    1510 months ago

    Trump is just a lying little fucking pussy who will never be president ever again.
    If you want him to shut the fuck up, send Stormy Daniels over with a magazine to beat his ass.
    He will shut up.