No, I just see 40 years on a scale bigger than my own lifetime. Again, I don't expect to live to see the end of these problems. I will probably die of old age before they are all completely solved. Just like many other problems were actually solved before I was ever born.
You sound like someone at a book club talking about the book they didn’t read. Murdoch was the one causing the problems. His son will likely continue to use his father’s media empire to lie and manipulate.
No, he's not a cause. He's a symptom. This is an example of "great man history", where Murdoch is seen as somehow special, and if we had prevented him from fucking shit up, things would be fine.
I would argue that if he didn't do it, someone else would've, because it's a systemic problem, and he is just one example of it, just like Trump. They are not the cause of illness, but a symptom of illness.
Dude literally created the 24 hour news cycle and the dogshit that has been destroying the US for the last few decades. You think all those people would have gathered on January 6th without Faux News telling them the election was stolen?
Murdoch was responsible for a lot of horrible shit, Jan 6th for sure, but he did not create the 24 hr news cycle.
Why is everyone suddenly trying to pretend I'm defending Rupert Murdoch? I said things do change. That is not the same as liking Rupert Murdoch. I'm not in a kids sub, so wtf is going on…?
Rupert Murdoch is directly responsible for an overwhelmingly large amount of the bullshit that is American politics and cancel culture today. He is a cancer to society and I hope he dies a slow, miserable death. You are on here acting like he isn't one of the worst human beings to have existed in the past century.
I'm not really confident enough to say. Like all things with society, its very complex, an equation with dozens or hundreds of variables, not just a few.
There's a lot of theories though, income inequality and expanding corporate influence are commonly attributed factors. It's really the rise of populism that we're looking at, and that's ultimately rooted in citizen dissatisfaction. That's what opens the door for people like Murdoch and Trump in the first place.
Yes Murdoch and Trump, two billionaires that use media to manipulate people into thinking billionaires are their friends; “job creators”. You’re right that if it wasn’t Murdoch it may have been someone else, but it was him and he objectively moved public discourse further towards the pro-business, pro-wealth hoarding, anti-union world we live in.
We've solved a lot of problems in the past few decades, just not all of them, and we added new ones on top.
Stop hoping for a problem-free world. Your children, if you choose to have some, will see problems of their own. Some will be those we've failed to address. Others will be brand new.
… I think you're pretty ignorant to how murdoch has been spitting up the same problems for 40 years…
He’s been focusing on the same problems because it works. Why change a successful formula?
No, I just see 40 years on a scale bigger than my own lifetime. Again, I don't expect to live to see the end of these problems. I will probably die of old age before they are all completely solved. Just like many other problems were actually solved before I was ever born.
You sound like someone at a book club talking about the book they didn’t read. Murdoch was the one causing the problems. His son will likely continue to use his father’s media empire to lie and manipulate.
They sound like someone using AI to write their responses. Profile is interesting too.
No, he's not a cause. He's a symptom. This is an example of "great man history", where Murdoch is seen as somehow special, and if we had prevented him from fucking shit up, things would be fine.
I would argue that if he didn't do it, someone else would've, because it's a systemic problem, and he is just one example of it, just like Trump. They are not the cause of illness, but a symptom of illness.
Dude literally created the 24 hour news cycle and the dogshit that has been destroying the US for the last few decades. You think all those people would have gathered on January 6th without Faux News telling them the election was stolen?
Murdoch was responsible for a lot of horrible shit, Jan 6th for sure, but he did not create the 24 hr news cycle.
Why is everyone suddenly trying to pretend I'm defending Rupert Murdoch? I said things do change. That is not the same as liking Rupert Murdoch. I'm not in a kids sub, so wtf is going on…?
Rupert Murdoch is directly responsible for an overwhelmingly large amount of the bullshit that is American politics and cancel culture today. He is a cancer to society and I hope he dies a slow, miserable death. You are on here acting like he isn't one of the worst human beings to have existed in the past century.
People have already forgotten about Roger Ailes I guess
So what’s the illness? You’re frustratingly vague.
I'm not really confident enough to say. Like all things with society, its very complex, an equation with dozens or hundreds of variables, not just a few.
There's a lot of theories though, income inequality and expanding corporate influence are commonly attributed factors. It's really the rise of populism that we're looking at, and that's ultimately rooted in citizen dissatisfaction. That's what opens the door for people like Murdoch and Trump in the first place.
Yes Murdoch and Trump, two billionaires that use media to manipulate people into thinking billionaires are their friends; “job creators”. You’re right that if it wasn’t Murdoch it may have been someone else, but it was him and he objectively moved public discourse further towards the pro-business, pro-wealth hoarding, anti-union world we live in.
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And none of these problems have been solved sense you were born. That's the issue.
We've solved a lot of problems in the past few decades, just not all of them, and we added new ones on top.
Stop hoping for a problem-free world. Your children, if you choose to have some, will see problems of their own. Some will be those we've failed to address. Others will be brand new.
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The problem of people like Murdoch have been around since time memorial. Patently bad people have always and likely will always exist.
It's only how much influence they are able to have that ebbs and flows over time.
And we're back in a period where these people have a whole lot of power.
Excellent point. This is how I view it as well. The problems that they bring are not without solutions.