Jack Black has said he’s cancelled the rest of the Tenacious D world tour after his bandmate Kyle Gass sparked an outcry with a comment about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
The comedy rock group were on stage in Sydney, Australia, on Sunday when Gass was asked to make a wish after being presented with a cake for his 64th birthday.
He appeared to reply: “Don’t miss Trump next time.”
Gass also split with his agent following the incident.
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JB’s response may be more of a concern for their safety than just an attempt to mitigate bad publicity. There are a lot more Trump supporters with guns than without.
Terrorism wins again.
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Fearing for their safety on an Australian tour? No, if you read the article the response is all political and Australian politicians were calling for the band’s deportation.
Those people remember this shit and hold grudges. It could easily follow them home.
How dare you not be civil while they’re rounding people up and putting them in camps!
Anyone standing behind Trump is a traitor insurrectionist flying the flag of a felon. The world will be a far better place without Trump, and anyone expediting that outcome has my respect as a patriot.
Populist are the true destroyers of civilizations.
A martyr Trump would be much much worse than a living one. Trump needs to be further discredited and the plutocracy as it exists today dismantled, otherwise things will either stay the same or get worse. Tall order, I know, but an assassinated Trump now would be terrible.
I disagree, a living martyr is the worst.
Yeah this was absolutely worth never being in another movie or TV show /s
What makes you think the outage is fake? If he doesn’t believe in political violence (doesn’t seem like that should be a controversial opinion even if you disagree), or at least believes in separating his private thoughts from his stage personality, I imagine the outrage is completely real. I’d imagine he very much did not want Kyle to implicate him by saying it in a very public venue with Jack on stage, even if he privately agrees.
I don’t know who he is in private but his public face is very much, “it’s all about the music, man!” and being innocuous. Being divisive can only hurt his popularity, and very much his bottom line as he and anyone thinking of casting him have to worry about boycotts and review bombs, to say nothing of targeted political violence against him and his fans.
Also, yes Trump and his followers espouse political violence. Do we want to normalize that? Really? That’s a scary thought to me because I don’t know how we put that genie back in the bottle. Right now it remains outrageous when the right does it, but if the left does as well then we can’t condemn it without hypocrisy. It’s just the new normal - we kill each other when we can’t get what we want through other means.
That thought very much frightens me because I don’t know how we all walk away from the precipice. I get Jack’s perspective and I’d be outraged about being put in the position of seeming to endorse that as well.
I guess bring on the downvotes if you must. I’ve got nothing to lose by speaking my mind.
Have fun not fighting back against fascists because defending against violence with violence would be “sinking ot their level”.
Yeah well if we’re all acting like fascists then none of us are.
Fascist is a word that means something.
It’s not that.
Please stop using it carelessly.
I’m sorry to see you are downvoted, I believe your mature take is correct.
I guess trump is the only one allowed to make disrespectful comments about other people that almost die and it is just ok.
No, it’s not okay. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Criticizing the language Trump uses but then praising Kyle would be hypocrisy.
Who the FUCK is downvoting this
Dragging the whole US down into a landscape where political assassination is acceptable is exactly the right’s goal. As soon as it’s normalized even a little bit, that little tail which currently has a handful of right-wing nuts with pipe bombs and hammers who is actually acting on it is gonna grow to encompass a huge, MASSIVE number of Facebook uncles
And then I can guarantee that all the people who are celebrating this will no longer be celebrating
Good.
Politicians should be terrified of the monstrous political movement they’ve created and/or worked alongside.
If they didn’t want to fear for their lives, then they should have worked for the benefit of the people rather than the shareholders.
Your idea that the violence will wind up mainly directed against anyone other than the politicians working for good outcomes, and vulnerable ordinary people both in and out of the US, is unfounded.
So you don’t think it’s ok for trump to make disrespectful comments about other people that almost die? Hmmmm
So you have no reading comprehension? Hmmmm
Bet you can’t explain to me how I’m wrong about his comment lol
Explain to me how he didnt imply that it’s not ok for trump to do it.
Or maybe you’re the one with terrible reading comprehension?
The comment is criticizing the fact that Trump can seemingly say and do whatever he wants and gets away with it. While if anyone else does it they’re called out on it.
So you think the implication of the original post was “everyone should be able to make disrespectful comments about people that almost die and it’s ok”?
Or is the implication “it’s not ok for people to make disrespectful comments about people that almost die”?
This isn’t complicated, those are the only two interpretations of the original comment. Only one of them is a realistic interpretation, and it - along with a lot of comments in this thread - are overtly hypocritical.
Don’t think I’ll win over you or the hypocrite-hivemind, and I don’t particularly care. Later.
Cool overdramatic story, bro
Uhhh what lol
Explaining how reading works = overdramatic
Is English your native language?
I find the outrage hilarious considering the rhetoric that comes out of trumps mouth.
Agreed, kind of a dumb comment to make in front of a large crowd. But the reaction is way overblown.
Trump assassination attempt causes Tenacious D to break up was not on my 2024 bingo card.
Comedy group makes joke on stage, more at 11
And here we are with the unpredictable ridiculous shit happening purely because Trump is around again. I for one did not miss 2016-2020.
I guess because…uh…I don’t know, other then black just wanting out of the band, this doesn’t make a lot of sense.
He said he was “blindsided” by the comment.
Blindsided? Aren’t they friends?
Blindsided? By a sentiment I imagine people had been making jokes about since it happened?
Blindsided because he didn’t think Kyle would say something that could legitimately hurt JB’s image and thus the rest of his career, which is clearly the priority over Tenacious D.
Right, although he explicitly talks about being blindsided by the politically violent nature of the comment, it sounds disingenuous
Tenacious D has a 9-minute song on their first album about comedically overthrowing the government where the ultimate joke is that they assassinate each other simultaneously
Today we are all Kyle Gass fans
Serious question for anyone who believes political violence is never ok: at what point on the timeline do you think it was ok to respond to Hitler with violence?
1923 Beer Hall Putsch? SA violence in the early 30s? The Nazi party being sworn into power in 1933? Reischstag Fire? Night of the Long Knives?
Trump already has the support of a bought and paid for corrupt court, and we’ve already had Jan 6th. He’s promised to be dictator on day 1.
Is political violence truly never the answer?
It never the answer to advocate for it in a non-political venue where you’re part of a group that can associated with your comment without their consent. He torpedoed their careers as a band.
I hate Trump, but I don’t want him to be made a martyr and I’d be pissed off if I was Jack Black and this guy fucked up our public performances without my knowing about it first.
I really doubt he torpedoed their careers. The joke was no worse than lots of jokes Trump has made, such as about Nancy Pelosi’s husband. If the partnership ends, it’s because of Jack Black, not because of people clamoring for them to stop touring.
He torpedoed their careers as a band.
Did he though? I can’t imagine KG’s sentiment is an unusual one except among the MAGA cult and milquetoast centrists, and even then only the cultists could probably maintain a sustained boycott (although even then I don’t think things have been going too poorly for Bud Light lately).
I’m not sure I buy the trump as martyr either. No one has quite been able to replicate his “charm” among the faithful, so with him gone are centrists going to be more swayed? I’m not convinced.
When is it okay if it’s against whichever politicians you like?
I don’t understand why people tend to forget that opinions vary. There literally cannot be a moment where everyone agrees someone can only be stopped by violence. Don’t worry though, sadly like 95% of Lemmy has been proud of this bloodlust the past few days. Your opinion is popular.
Last week Kyle quit the band Now we’re back together Misunderstanding Didn’t understand It doesn’t matter Now we’re back together again
I so want this to be an epic version of that song.
they followed up the way they were “supposed to,” but they know low key everyone’s even more of a fan now
he didn’t cancel the tour - they did. Kyle Gass is as much a member of the band as Jack Black is
Jack Black sure makes it sound one-sided.
You’re right about that - he doesn’t say ‘we’ once in that statement
normally, people dismiss Gass a lot when talking about Tenacious D, but that statement really seems like it was only Jack’s decision
thanks for telling me
If they can say the quiet part out loud, why can’t we?
Because everyone outside of the right thinks you have to uphold decorum while they burn shit down around our ears.
You’re not wrong, but not normalizing political assassinations is about quite a bit more than “decorum”
This is like saying “well this guy is doing date rapes so I don’t see why I can’t joke about raping his sister”
The answer is 0 assassinations. The answer is the rule of law. I actually 100% agree with you that most of the political left has its head in the sand about the urgency of coming to grips with what the right wants to do and stopping it, but “let’s go ahead and have the civil war then, what’s the worst that could ensue” is about the worst possible take and strategy that you could employ in response
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not advocating for anyone being assassinated at all. But my point still stands, in that the right has no sense of decorum and everyone else falls over themselves to tone police anything even slightly unseemly.
Like I say, you’re not wrong on that; I only really said anything because of the topic where it’s being discussed and the implication to this event.
Somewhere between tone policing, and approving of the assassination of your opponents, the truth lies.
I’d argue there’s a big difference between wishing someone to be killed, and witnessing them almost die and wishing the outcome had just been a bit different. Like, you don’t want it it happen in the first place, but have an opinion on the outcome if it did anyways.
He’s not saying “I wish someone would go out and kill Trump”, it’s “if a bullet was already flying towards Trump I wish it had hit him, especially instead of a random crowd member behind him”.
He’s not saying “I wish someone would go out and kill Trump”, it’s “if a bullet was already flying towards Trump I wish it had hit him, especially instead of a random crowd member behind him”.
He said “don’t miss Trump next time”.
Because of mods. Most other communities on Lemmy will let you crack jokes like that. There are two specific mods who just perm ban anyone saying that about Trump, but not about Biden
I would be extremely surprised if joking about assassinating Biden was kosher with any of the mods
Never thought I’d see the day where, when it comes down to it, JaBles shows he has no spine and folds like the cheap suit his character wore in school of rock.
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Cowardly nepo baby isn’t tenacious, absolute shocker.
I wouldn’t want to share a stage with someone actively encouraging the assassination of a political figure - even if I agree with the sentiment…
I talk to my friends about wishing he was gone but I don’t want to be around him if he’s shouting about it at work, either.
