People in here are missing the point. Yeah, Applebees, Olive Garden, IHOP, etc. aren’t “classy”, they’re cheap chain sit-down restaurants. They appeal to a wide audience, cause they are clean, the food is fine, they serve a variety of drinks, and you can go there semi-regularly as long as you have some disposable income.
Sure, you’re not going to see multi-millionaires who grew up rich going there, those people go to the “fancy” chains, like Ruth’s Chris Steak House. But you’d probably see a 6 figure tech job family sitting in a both next to a plumber family sitting next to a doctor family. Which is something you don’t really see at most other places.
They’re anything but cheap
Six figure tech job here. I no longer feel like I can afford Applebee’s, idk about olive garden because the food is gross. Certainly can’t afford drinks and dinner.
All you can eat zupa toscana. It’s the only reason to go to olive garden. The salad is fine also I guess. Hard to fuck up lettuce and Italian dressing. That said I probably go less than once a year.
Applebee’s, on the other hand, I don’t think I’ve been to one in fifteen years.
I don’t really like eating out that much any more unless it’s for something I can’t do at home like sushi or hibachi or a slow roasted brisket. Slop on a plate with sauce or a medium rare ribeye are things I can easily make at home for half the price.
It’s not really the money, these places just seem like a terrible waste of <eating out calories>. And if you’re getting the lower calorie healthier option on these menus the food is just totally depressing. Always something like “here’s a piece of lemon, some leaves, and a skinless chicken breast.” I’m not paying someone to prepare that for me.
Olive Garden is freaking disgusting to me. It’s normal for things like soups to be made ahead of time and kept warm, their food tastes extremely tortured, though. event the pasta is far more ‘meh’ than it should be.
The only thing going for Olive Garden is the giant olives in the salad. Which promptly find their way onto my (or the nephew’s) fingertips for a little childish fun. (Unfortunately, the rest of the family actually likes OG. I don’t know why.)
The salad is pretty bomb in general though. It’s the only thing I’d go there for, and thankfully they sell the dressing so you don’t have to, but for a place as not-great as Olive Garden the salad is impressively good
Dude, do you know how much a plumber makes?
I have a nephew that just started classes at a vocational school. He said plumbers and electricians average the highest salaries of all the major trades.
Having just replaced a 30 year old oil heating system with a new high efficiency gas one I can say without a doubt that plumbers definitely make good money.
8 know i pay tradesman well, but I don’t know how much they take home.
Sounds like you are describing a Diner.
Lmfao Applebee’s isn’t classy at all, it’s like a step above Denny’s. Nobody with money is like ‘you know what I want tonight? some shitty microwaved food in a 90s setting where the service is meh and the cost is 3x what it’s actually worth’. People who think it’s high-class, are not actually high-income. Maybe to the social media influences, not people with real jobs.
Or has the joint turned itself around massively in the last decade?
I don’t even consider Applebee’s to be a restaurant.
It’s my neighborhood bar and grill
People who think it’s high-class, are not actually high-income.
Trump likes his steak well done with ketchup and his bathrooms gold plated.
Zuckerberg pays hundreds for crappy grey t-shirts.
The richest man in the world is a twat.
Wealth, class, and discernment are not synonymous.
Cunts are still running the world.
Trump likes his steak well done with ketchup and his bathrooms gold plated.
because he’s mentally and literally still in diapers. the man is a toddler.
Having waited tables at a club exclusively for the wealthy who paid $200 a month just to get in and pay more money for food/drinks, I can tell you first hand that most rich people are trashy as fuck. Really changed how I thought about the upper class, and was a significant stepping stone on my path to the left.
I enjoy classical music and seeing it live is either free or near free. I find it amusing the idea that people who do this are supposed to be rich. It’s just regular people who enjoy it.
Most people that absurdly wealthy are toddlers.
That’s the point. They never even learned how to wipe their own ass, you think they know what class is?
Maybe they mean high income in comparison to the world? Like the top 10% of wage earners globally starts at just above $100,000 and that isn’t caviar and cristal money.
I would think it’s exclusive to the US since these are both US restaurants.
Yeah, you’re probably right, I’m just trying to make sense of the numbers.
Bullshit you can get pancakes at Denny’s. Applebee’s is a step above 711 since someone else microwaves the tv dinner for you.
My wife and I are high income but we used to be very poor. To this day Chili’s is a “go to” date night joint.
I think people only go to Applebee’s for the cheap drinks.
The hundred millionaire CEO of the corporation I work goes to Applebee’s. Yes really. My boss swears when they went once the guy took out a coupon.
LOL, holy shit
I know. It is something that greatly confuses me. I know it’s true because multiple people where I work have told me that he has treated them to lunch there.
You don’t go to Applebee’s because you want great food or a classy atmosphere. You go there because you know what to expect, no surprises.
You know the food will be, at least, OK. You go there because the service will be, at least, OK. You already know the prices, at least roughly.
It’s a safe place to take a first date or take the family kinda place. Nothing will be wildly out of anyone’s expectations, plenty of choices for everyone. We all know what we’re walking into. Bland but “safe”.
Personally? I’d rather take a bet on a rotten-assed, hole-in-the-wall dive where no one speaks English and the salsa is actually hot. But that’s just me.
Applebees is for boomers. Your 60 year olds are eating there because they want to. Anyone under 40 doesn’t actually want to be there.
originally, Applebees was for millennial college and high school students going out to for a place to get cheap apetizers and hang out together.
then the boomers started invading.
Applebee’s opened before the first millennial was born (most consider millennials to be 1981-1996). With an opening date of 1980, the high school and college students of the time are baby boomers.
The term “boomer” refers to folks born during the post-WWII baby boom, and while the exact dates vary depending on who you ask, usually that’s ending in 1955-60ish, so really with opening years at the end of the century that would be Gen X who would’ve been the majority of the high school and college kids eating there. Granted the generations are pretty meaningless if you look to closely at the specifics
Hm, basically every statistical source puts it as exactly 1946-1964. 16 and up is what I assume high school and college students that could eat out alone were at the time— a few 15 and under probably made it, but weren’t the target demographic nor the majority.
Where are you seeing it end at 55-60? I googled it to double check and can’t find a single source that puts it outside the exact 1946-1964 range. Per Wikipedia:
A significant degree of consensus exists around the date range of the baby boomer cohort, with the generation considered to cover those born from 1946 to 1964 by various organizations such as the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary, Pew Research Center, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Federal Reserve Board, Australian Bureau of Statistics, Gallup, YouGov and Australia’s Social Research Center. The United States Census Bureau defines baby boomers as “individuals born in the United States between mid-1946 and mid-1964”. Landon Jones, in his book Great Expectations: America and the Baby Boom Generation (1980), defined the span of the baby-boom generation as extending from 1946 through 1964.
I was honestly going off of memory, and usually when I try to look up the age ranges it’s looking up the younger “generations” so I suppose I’m incorrect
My point being the target demographic were millennials, and there was a point where part of it being cool was that there weren’t boomers or older people going.
Even if it originally served previous generations that were in that same place we were at the time, they weren’t serving those generations at the time we were there. then, the started coming into that space so we left. maybe it wasn’t entirely conscious, but that’s kinda what happened.
I wonder if this article is just an ad for those restaurants. “Eat here to mix with the elites!”
“Eat here to mix with the serfs!”
Serf and turf?
More like “serf & toff”. 🤌🏼
That went over my head, I’m embarrassed to say. You can probably guess which category I’d fall into.
Toff is a slur for rich fucks.
TIL lol
Oh, and don’t you worry none. We’re ALL serfs here. ✊🏽
🤜🤛
Slowly turning into a Life in Hell strip
This is incredible. I completely forgot about Groening’s comic strip days. All I used to hear about was the original Simpsons stuff.
Call it an anecdote but I have never seen a single person at Applebee’s who looked like they earned more than $30,000/yr
I haven’t been to an Applebee’s since like 2010, but I’m gonna assume going out to eat at Applebee’s has also gotten more expensive to the point where your comment is probably less valid than it was in like 2010.
Like, I don’t think someone earning 30k/yr is able to budget in a night out at Applebee’s rn.
You are correct. It’s better to just find a local place to eat, which will have better food at basically the same price. Just like fast food out pricing it’s worth, these places all feel very weird now that they can’t compete with the pricing they were originally made for.
I feel like I’m about to reveal a ton of disconnect but, how cheap would it need to be to be affordable on a 30k salary? I’m not trying to be an ass, I genuinely don’t know.
I checked the menu of an Applebee’s near me. You can get two meals for less than $36, including tip. This is at a very high cost of living area (South Bay Area). That’s like $18 if you’re splitting it. I don’t go to Applebee’s a lot, is that actually much more than it used to be or unaffordable in today’s 30k?
Well, it’s anecdotal, but when I was earning <$30k a year, I wouldn’t go to a restaurant if I couldn’t get a good meal for less than $10, pre tip. I think I went to Applebee’s once, when they had an unlimited wing deal for ~$13, and that was a way to eat for two days in one meal.
That’s better than I was assuming tbh.
I’d say on 30k, you’re foolish to spend more than 30 a head on a night out, and those nights need to be like once a month tops.
So I guess it’s more doable than I assumed.
How would you know?
Not everyone who’s rich, dresses like Richie Rich. Plenty dress down, dress frugally or simply don’t give a fuck about impressing diners in a chain restaurant. Hell, I used to work for a bank, and some of our richest clients looked borderline homeless.
I mean, you can dress like Zuckerberg for 50 bucks. Sure, his boring ass t-shirts actually costs a few hundred, but you wouldn’t be able to tell unless you took a really close look. Old money also loves going under the radar.
LOL, the beach bums around here are often multi-millionaires with nothing better to do than get fucked up on the beach. Don’t judge people around here based on appearance!
Old money doesn’t drive rusty Saturn and Pontiac sedans with mismatched body panels though.
That’s because we dress for the restaurant.
Seriously. Nobody is putting on even a dress shirt to go to Applebees.
Does no one dress nicely for anything any longer? Hell, I shower and dress nicely for when my wife comes home from work. I wish to be attractive for her when she arrives.
And if anyone equates dressing well with “uncomfortable” and/or “expensive”, they’re a child needing some fashion tips and advice.
Yes, when it’s appropriate. I always dress for the occasion. Applebee’s is very low on the occasion scale.
It’s also kind of weird to dress up for your spouse just so they find you attractive. I’d rather be found attractive regardless of attire, and save dressing up for something special.
We disagree! And that’s great, means we can talk!
I dress up for my woman every day before she comes home from work. (I work from home.)
It takes almost no extra effort. Why shouldn’t I? I’ve heard my wife brag to her friends, “He is so ‘pogie’ when I come home, and he does it for me!” (Apparently ‘pogie’ is ‘hot’ or ‘cute’ in Tagalog. 🤷🏻♂️)
And it makes me feel good about myself, so why not?
My college roommate dressed nice, tie and all, for an algebra exam. I laughed.
“Fuck are you doing?!”
“I dress nice, feel good about myself, do better on the test.”
That was a life-changing moment for me.
so both wealthy and poor people have equally bad palates, gotcha
“That’s what rich people eat; the garbage parts of food.”
“Well I had garbage yesterday and it didn’t cost $300!”
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Wow I remember when I didn’t know about Futurama, only knew about the “shut up and take my money” meme. I have now watched it so many times even I recognise episodes just from dialogues. This is your cue, my dear reader to shut up and watch Futurama
Y’know what, you’re right. I think I am due for another rewatch.
All these places are just fancy fast food. Half of the menu I’d frozen to fat fryer. But hey if your having fun, that’s what counts.
Maybe 20+ years ago. I view current Applebee’s as just plain shit and Olive Garden as a faux fancy restaurant that probably has a giant bank of microwaves in the kitchen to prepare your prepackaged frozen meals.
Olive Garden serves nothing but microwavable meals you can get at the grocery store.
This is totally false. Olive garden makes their food on-site as any restaurant does. I worked there for a while
This is myopic bullshit. Olive Garden, like all of its competitors, is a chain with a corporate hub handling all logistics. There is no “scratch cooking” at any Olive Garden. As much of the ingredients as possible are frozen for transport and specifically engineered to be efficiently prepared at each “kitchen”.
source: decades in culinary across multiple continents, toured Olive Garden and dozens of others both above and below (not much) over the years.
I never said scratch. They definitely do not microwave their food.
They cook to portioned specs just like the vast majority of restaurants. No one goes to OG thinking it’s Michelin-starred.
How is it myopic, though?
Tfw I like olive garden. I only ever get the soup, salad, and bread sticks tho.
Olive garden is different. When you’re there, you’re family.
Some people just have no idea what good food is and it’s puzzling to me, but it must not be related to income. I eat out at local restaurants mostly and they are not more expensive than those chains, and the food is way better.
Risk reduction. Safe choice.
The food will be ok, there’s a relatively small risk of food poisoning, or having an especially shit meal. You know what you’re getting.
Same business model as chain hotels and blockbusters starring A-listers with name recognition. Customers know it will be just ok, but that’s enough.
This is exactly why I go to McDonald’s when I’m anywhere away from home. It’s almost always the same, and their corporate side is extremely serious about consistency and quality.
Cracker Barrel took this a step further, providing a generic “home-y” feel anywhere in the country.
Cracker Barrel is atrocious though. Absolutely flavorless. It’s the epitome of bland old white people food.
I’d rather eat Applebee’s. At least they use salt.
Exactly. Finding good restaurants takes time, too. We had a lot less (none) of that available after we had a kid. So low risk and sticking to what you know makes sense. As she got older we have been able to experiment some.
My grandmother always insisted on going to somewhere like Olive Garden or Applebees when I’d go have my regular visits with her. Never understood it, but it made her happy and she didn’t like trying new stuff, so not a big deal. I feel like Boomers have got to be the only people left keeping these places afloat. I don’t know a single person blow 50 who eats there.
There’s a large swath of people who never try anything new. They’d visit somewhere 3000 miles away and eat at somewhere familiar like McDonald’s/Subway etc.
I’m interested to see if that happens to me as I get older.
Right now my policy for trips is “no chains”.
Checking out foreign versions of American fast food chains can be pretty fun. Their menus are often changed a bit to suit local tastes. Don’t get me wrong, I won’t turn down any chance to eat at a local hole in the wall, but I’ll make a point of getting something from a McDonald’s or KFC that they don’t offer back home at least once if I get the chance.
Probably why there’s an Olive Garden in Time Square
Some of them are much better, some are just as bad. Too many local resteraunts around me have the same Sysco derived menu items. The same coconut shrimp cooked the same way in them all… Sure it is a different name out front and it isn’t a franchise but it may as well be.
You can usually avoid the bad ones using google reviews and a bit of trial and error. I guess it depends where you live, though.
Olive Garden hits different. Sure I can go to some classy authentic Italian restaurant and I do, but sometimes you get a craving that only Olive Garden salad, breadsticks, and shitty pasta can satisfy.
Give me breadsticks and a giant bowl of alfredo sauce and I’m set.
We had to shut down the applebees because no one could afford to eat there in my town
I’m curious if the content was switched after comments were made? Like it’s just some research that uses mobile data to show likely interactions, but most comments are rebutting things that were never said and doesn’t seem to be in the PDF, ie, “these places aren’t classy.”
People here love shitting on anything people like.
Helps them feel cool
here?
Yeah honestly it’s just “people”
Good point.
Fascinating that the article runs down a whole host of communal gathering spots and completely, utterly, fails to mention houses of worship.
“Other businesses, like pharmacies, grocery stores, and gyms, or public institutions, like parks, schools, and libraries, are not as diverse”
Where do the different faiths rank compared to restaurants? Are they all the same or do Pentacostals rank lower than, say Catholics?
Maybe the authors of the study went out of their way to ignore the religious angle.
Rich people don’t go to church, that’s for the poors
That’s because churches are more segregational than communal.
I don’t know if you noticed that people of differing religions don’t meet up in each other’s houses of worship. And often times some very petty differences have hugely violent ramifications.
Perhaps religions and its properties are a vehicle of segregation not commingling.
No, but the question is people of varying income levels meeting up in the same space.
So how does the income disparity in a Catholic church measure up to a Mormon one? Or a Synagog to a Mosque? Would be interesting to find out.
When you’re here, you’re a lesser form of family. Don’t look at me.
This makes me think of a thing I saw on YouTube. These guys review Olive garden commercials https://youtu.be/MASjtPaOdgg?si=6_4XrYNRpfifr5UO
Has the quality gone down at Applebee’s and Olive Garden? I haven’t been to either recently but I recall them being consistently ok, certainly better than “shitty microwaved food”, as one commenter put it. I’m sensing some big “I think it’s super cool to look down on things” energy in this thread.
both trash honestly it is pretty microwave heavy
The last time I went to Olive Garden my raviolis were clearly microwaved as the food was hot but the shells were rock hard without looking overcooked in any way. It’s all garbage corporate food with a facade of being ‘fancy’ because they have some Italian decor on the walls.
Olive Garden is still okay, but Applebee’s has definitely declined drastically.
That’s frightening, it was garbage food the last time I went to one, about 20 years ago.
Their fries now taste like stale bread and their wings taste like leftovers.
Honestly, it’s just the cool thing to meme on on the Internet. Like saying the ice cream machine at McDonald’s is always down.
They aren’t the greatest, but they’re ok.
I’m sure I will curse myself by saying this, but I have never encountered a broken McDonald’s ice cream machine.
However, I have encountered an El Pollo Loco that was out of chicken.
