• queermunist she/her
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    1485 months ago

    Fucking clown

    People are taking on credit card debt for lots of reasons: emergencies, unexpected bills, gaps in weekly pay, but almost no one is doing it because YOLO

    • FuglyDuck
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      795 months ago

      “but that doesn’t make the poors sound irresponsible! we have to make them sound irresponsible so we can then swoop in and save them from themselves!” the banking shill, probably.

      • @grue@lemmy.world
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        345 months ago

        "…so we can then swoop in and save them from themselves!” the banking shill, probably.

        I’m not so sure about that “probably.” I think “so we can then swoop in and exploit them with even more predatory products and services!” is more likely.

        • FuglyDuck
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          195 months ago

          Mine was the for-public-release version. Yours is the internal memo

    • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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      I dunno… I started watching Caleb Hammer on youtube and some of the people he’s had on his show make me second guess the state of humanity.

        • ThrowawayOnLemmy
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          Yeah it’s almost always stupid expensive cars that get people in stupid debt on that show. But they “had to have a new car” 🙄

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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      65 months ago

      I want to agree with you buy I don’t want to go off based on a blurb in a shitrag such as business insider.

      Maybe Rosenberg has collected spending data and noticed increase in spending at e-commerce sites and malls?

      • queermunist she/her
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        -35 months ago

        Maybe, but even then is it YOLO to use credit to buy new clothes for work?

        I’m certain that the data is far more complicated than is being presented.

          • Flying Squid
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            25 months ago

            You said spending at e-commerce sites and malls. One of the reasons people spend money at malls is to get clothes for work.

            As for e-commerce sites, I’m not sure why you think people go to Amazon just for luxuries.

          • queermunist she/her
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            I started working with welding presses this past year and needed to buy a week’s worth of jeans to meet safety requirements (I didn’t really own jeans before lol)

            Fortunately I had some savings, otherwise I’d have been forced to use credit to buy them before I got my first paycheck

  • downhomechunk [chicago]
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    805 months ago

    My household debt shot way up in the last year. I had a couple unplanned home repairs and a whole lot of hospital bills for my 4 year old. YOLO!

  • themeatbridge
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    675 months ago

    Ironic that this article is paywalled, so poor people don’t get to read more bullshit blaming poor people for costing predatory lenders money.

    • @cmbabul@lemmy.world
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      235 months ago

      I’m not specifically advocating for this but am kinda astounded that with how many folks became weirdly obsessed with Fight Club for all the wrong reasons that one of them hasn’t at least tried to destroy a credit card company and its records.

  • @AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works
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    415 months ago

    I think everyone should just collectively decide to quit paying their CC, en masse.

    Mostly because I’m curious what would happen.

  • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    125 months ago

    Economists say what their employer pays them to say. Even when they might be correct about something they should not be trusted anymore than you should trust the prosecution if you were in criminal court or the police officers interrogating you if you are a suspect in a crime.

    Noticed how the “economist” here is avocado toasting instead of talking about the whole scale destruction of the middle class via shitty medical insurance programs and shitty infrastructure? Notice how he isn’t going after the high frequency traders or short term thinking running rampant in our tech/industrial sector?

  • Omega
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    85 months ago

    Impulsive spending has always been a problem for some people. It’s nothing new.

    • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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      315 months ago

      I don’t blame them. There’s entire industries devoted to getting people to impulse buy. Almost $300 billion a year to convince us to buy things we otherwise wouldn’t. And that’s just for advertising alone.

      • Apathy Tree
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        125 months ago

        I also don’t blame them because sometimes that’s the only real dopamine hit they get from their entire month’s paycheck… and that’s wildly depressing.

        • @Dkarma@lemmy.world
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          Lol this is such a joke. No one needs a dopamine hit from retail therapy.

          The problem here is that people still think you do.

          There are so many ways to feel fulfilled and happy without buying plastic shit you don’t need.

    • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥
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      85 months ago

      When you know buying your own home is impossible, why not use credit card to buy stuff that might give you dopamine hit, like shoes or clothes?

      • @Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com
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        Because that’s exactly what makes owning a home impossible instead of simply unrealistically difficult? Our system may be trash, but that attitude is just shooting yourself in the foot while you give everything you have to Papa Bezos.

        • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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          Homes are selling for over half a million in my city.

          Oh we can save some time. No, I am not moving out two or more hours away from work to be able to afford a home. Yes, I am aware that smaller starter homes are a thing. No, I am not going to bother every relative I have for money. And yes I enjoy avocado toast

      • @Dkarma@lemmy.world
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        Because that’s exactly how you never get a home. Stupid everyday splurges are the thing avocado toast tropes are really talking about. Money adds up…so yes if you buy red bottomed shoes or nice cars you won’t be able to afford a house.

        If you’re not getting paid enough to buy a home then you need to improve your skill set and or change jobs. That’s how successful people make it work. Anything else is on you.

  • @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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    Consumer credit is right around where it was pre-pandemic if you adjust for how much the economy has grown. It’s high, but you need more than this to call it a bubble. This is just how the US economy works.

    Americans as a whole charge more on their credit cards when the economy is doing well like it was pre-pandemic and like it is now. When they are uncertain about their jobs, they pay it down or buy less so it doesn’t increase.

    • @Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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      85 months ago

      I’ve never understood letting credit card balances ride unless you literally could not afford it. You’re just willingly paying more for things.

      • @dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        45 months ago

        Because buying shit is addictive, and credit card companies exploit people with poor impulse control. Most people don’t know how compound interest works either.

        • @Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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          15 months ago

          I wonder if it would be best to implement some sort of rule where if someone has more than $1000 building up interest on a card they can’t use the card anymore until it’s been paid off in full. Or if that would just funnel people to predatory lenders and loan sharks.