• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Quick summary: Muhammad married his wife Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9.

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      I’m always interested in how religious texts are explained away.

      Like with abortion, the Bible clearly states that life begins at the first breath. It’s actually a bit extreme in that causing a miscarriage is explicitly a loss of property and NOT murder. And everyone knows about how they give guidance for am abortion in case of infidelity.

      But it’s always explained that the Bible uses some vague identifier for an unborn, and the rest is just kind of ignored.

      So, what’s the explanation for the pedophilia in the Quran? Just different times? She wasn’t actually that young? They didn’t actually have sex? Or just how “dare you ask about that”?

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        Just different times? She wasn’t actually that young?

        Yes and yes depending on who you ask.

        They didn’t actually have sex?

        No, they had kids.

        Or just how “dare you ask about that”?

        Definitely.

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        A lot of times people who grow up with a given religious culture don’t realize how fucked up it actually is.

        Like, let’s be real - the belief that a 12 year old girl gets knocked up by her unborn child’s alter ego as God in order for that child to get tortured and killed in order to appease his own blood lust in place of your ass is whack as shit.

        Even at the time there’s a record of Romans being weirded out by the tradition of the Eucharist and the notion of eating the body and drinking the blood of an incarnated god.

        Being raised or indoctrinated into a thing goes a long way towards normalization.

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    10 months ago

    Well, he’s not wrong. Even their own early Islamic sources say this 🤷🏼‍♂️

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    10 months ago

    Religion is fucked. People causing acts of violence over religion is fucked. All religion should be shamed out of existence, but that’s not going to happen.

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    10 months ago

    This is what happens when people view their texts as infallible. They either bend to the old texts or they pretend that the texts match their personal beliefs.

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      10 months ago

      Well… christian priests are child diddlers too… so its a religious thing in general.

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          I could say yes, but honestly I don’t remember. Because let’s face it, rich first wife and last child bride are kinda hard to beat when it comes to being memorable.

          I will say instead that his daughters were given to allies and such of his age, one of whom was a brother-in-law if I recall the relations right.