Folks, we need to sit down and have a serious talk about this, because this is not the first time U.S. cops have been caught running fucking torture houses in major cities.
This is exactly the kind of bullshit the founding fathers knew would happen when tyranny sets foot on U.S. soil. Say what you will about them, in this case they're absolutely spot-on.
They founded the U.S. in the middle of a revolution sparked by fuck-shit treatment inflicted upon them like that by the British. They had to fight a particularly nasty war to gain their independence, so they gave us the right to speak and of weapons ownership because they knew, one day, we'd have to do it again.
We are WAY past that time, folks. Holy shit.
FYI: We have spooks forum sliding and concern trolling, specifically to discourage you from supporting or joining a revolution.
They do it because they know how powerful we are when we work together. How powerful we are compared to them and the powers that be. How powerful you are and how important your thoughts, feelings and choices are.
Why else would they find a simple Lemmy thread enough of a threat to be worthy of attacking?
So don't listen to them. Don't allow them to manipulate you or to control the conversation. Don't give them the fight that they want. They are clearly speaking in bad faith. Simply downvote them into a hole and stand strong.
Apes together strong, mofos 😎
Sadly, the wrong populace of the U.S owns most of the guns.
Then that needs to change, as in now
Good luck getting Lauren Boebert's etc gun's away from her without her calling to action.
No no, I mean people who oppose the blatant torture shit need to go get armed.
And then what? Shootouts when any cop tries to detain you? These torture houses aren't the first stop after arrest. And people aren't going to jump straight to lethal violence at a traffic stop.
If that's what it takes. It's either that or allow them to continue torturing and oppressing American citizens. Do you really want that on your conscience?
If that’s what it takes.
Cool. You first.
No, the secret is to win. You play the game on the side of the road or in custody with the cops. Then when you have your chance you ambush. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers
Yes
OK. Goodluck with that. I don't think it's a sustainable solution right now. But you do you.
I wouldn't worry about her, I heard she has had her hands full.
A bunch of idiots with guns stand no chance against the US military. This isn't a fight you can win by force.
Them goat herders in Afghanistan made a pretty good effort.
Did they though? I don't think so.
The Vietnamese people made a good effort and successfully repelled the US military.
The Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan, aren't they?
Because we left. They were pretty weak until we left.
Vietnam on the other hand maintained the ability to inflict major casualties throughout.
I'm in agreement with you that poorly equipped groups can make an impact. I disagree that the goat herders in Afghanistan did.
It’s not against the military. Nobody mention the army or marines you dummy. This is about the police. We can take those fuckers. Pigs don’t have artillery and air support.
…As if military personnel wouldn't join and blow the head off a crook cop or military officer in a civil war.
Isn't the military being woke a conservative talking point? If they are woke then they're on our side. :)
They are so silly that they think other people don't think for themselves either.
They will once you start an armed rebellion.
The most we'd have to deal with is the National Guard and we can just steal shit from their armories.
Fucking hell, you guys have no idea what this kind of armed rebellion entails, do you?
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It's not "the us military" that they are fighting. Also don't say dumbshit stuff like that since if the "US Military" is bombing american cities your liberal drivel is irrelevant.
So who are you fighting? Neighbors and civilians that don't vote like you?
The police departments that keep doing this shit.
I actually am being kind of serious about this. The fact that cops are running fucking CIA-style black sites shows us that
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They're escalating their oppressive garbage
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Some spook is showing them how
And those alone are enough justification for physically throwing them the fuck out. Go read about the nasty shit the U.S. government did to Middle Eastern men it kidnapped in its war on terror in the 00's. Their tactics are very similar to how this site and other torture mills U.S. cops have been caught running operate.
I think there is some confusion. The context, as I understood it, was that "they" are conservatives and are not fighting the military. So I wanted to know who they were fighting.
I wonder if more transparency, accountability, and oversight might be a more effective remedy than you know… just killing cops.
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your liberal drivel is irrelevant.
Aaand there it is.
Liberal drivel my ass. If you take up arms against the cops, expect heavy resistance. Go ahead and get yourself killed.
So we should hunt cops. I’m down.
A lawsuit filed Monday by Baton Rouge grandmother Ternell Brown provides chilling details about one such search. In filings at Baton Rouge’s federal courthouse, Brown recounts how she was out driving on 10 June when two officers, Lawrence Jr and Matthew Wallace, noticed prescription medications in her car during a traffic stop.
Brown asserts that she had offered to show the cops that she had a valid prescription, but they didn’t want to hear it. They took her to the Brave Cave, ordered her to fully undress, and made her spread her vagina to officers who were men, the lawsuit alleges.
That's the new normal our kids will be trapped in if we don't.
This is the best TL;DR I could come up with:
Cops doing cop things
Good human
The victims? Primarily Black. The perpetrators? Primarily white.
There is no ethnocide in America.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Across from an industrial hose and gasket supplier’s office, in a mostly empty and fenced-off lot behind a precinct house belonging to the police department of Louisiana’s capital city, there sits a white storage shed without any markings explaining its purpose.
That single-story warehouse – within a couple of blocks of a daycare center, an eatery specializing in chicken wings and a gasoline station frequented by unwary residents – is now the focus of local and federal authorities examining alarming claims that officers with the Baton Rouge police department (BRPD) took detained people there and brutalized them.
Allegations portraying the warehouse once used by the Baton Rouge Area Violence Elimination, or Brave, anti-street crime unit as a sort of black site or torture chamber are contained in two federal court lawsuits filed relatively recently.
On Wednesday, the Advocate reported, he was issued a misdemeanor summons charging him with simple battery after investigators found bodyworn camera video which showed him using a stun gun to shock a detainee handcuffed in the back of a patrol cruiser “without giving the suspect an opportunity to comply [with] verbal commands”.
Baton Rouge officers looked in the underwear and groped the genitals of Clarence Green and his teenage brother during a 2021 traffic stop, subsequently drawing scrutiny of the police force’s methods, as the Advocate reported.
Sterling’s family later received a $4.5m settlement from Baton Rouge’s city government to conclude an episode presaging the worldwide protests against police brutality that were elicited by a Minneapolis officer’s murder of George Floyd in 2020.
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Almost ACAB
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AACAB I can get behind lol. ACAB half the time is just straight up internet trolls and instigators. Meanwhile the same people love to espouse shit like how the wealthy are the real oppressors while ignoring most police are only firmly low-middle class. There are way more people getting into that job who just happened into it like most people in the world. While yes, the abusers and psychopaths are attracted to the job for the above, the separation of powers in places like that are wide. Just like they would be in most businesses. Let alone the real deal PTSD they have to deal with daily to weekly in som areas.
Any direct supervisors for teams that have pretty full automony know it's impossible to track what they do constantly. So much of it is based on the trust system and good faith actors speaking out when they see something. Throw in some bystanders effect and benefit of the doubt for people who'd normally be good to you but a monster in the shadows… I'm not envious of police one bit, or the people trying to make change from the inside. Which is the only real way it's going to happen despite internet tough guys espousing otherwise while refusing to pay taxes for shit like mental health services lol. Elected local/state politicians, DAs, also being the people who could make those changes. Also equally vilified.
It's way more complicated than people give it credit for when you're actually trying to make change. For most people trying to get by, best thing you can do is vote.
Are we really surprised by this point? The modern police are a collection of state-sanctioned, taxpayer funded, heavily militarized criminal syndicates.
I'm surprised anyone is surprised. Fuck me, I'm a 52-yo white boy and this doesn't make me blink. And it used to be worse!
I'm just glad people are finally coming out and agreeing that they're problematic enough that getting rid of them is justified. That is a breath of fresh air.
Is there such a thing as conscionable abuse?
Beating the shit out of a known rapist or pedophile, I guess, but that's what jail is for. 🤷 Or beating the shit out of those cops.
The people the pig patrollers were subjugating were just random citizens. They even sexually assaulted an innocent grandma because she had her prescriptions in her car. There's no justification for anything they did, and every justification in the world for everyone else to overthrow them.
I don't know how many people read the full article. It's pretty bad.
We gonna go there? A conservative might say that a gay person is a pedophile. We good with the other side dealing out extrajudicial beatings? (They called it "fag bashing" back in the day.)
The Guardian article really doesn't do the true extent of the horror the Baton Rouge police has been inflicting on its residents justice. Have a look at this pic from AP News:
Oh, and this is not the first police scandal to come out of Baton Rouge either. Think back seven years ago:
This latest scandal adds to a long list of corruption and misconduct allegations plaguing the Baton Rouge Police Department, which came under significant scrutiny following the 2016 fatal police shooting of Alton Sterling, a 37-year-old Black man. In 2021, a corruption probe into the department’s narcotics division led to criminal charges and internal discipline against officers accused of stealing drugs from evidence and lying on police reports.
Baton Rouge Police Chief Murphy Paul, who was hired to lead the agency in the wake of Sterling’s killing, said he was so concerned over the recent warehouse claims that he drove to the FBI’s New Orleans field division and asked them to review the allegations.
This tells us that
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The pigs know exactly what the fuck they're doing and don't care
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They've been doing this for a long time
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Legal attempts to force them to change clearly aren't working
And those facts tell us they're tyrannical and need to be thrown the fuck out.
Case closed.
We gonna go there? A conservative might say that a gay person is a pedophile. We good with the other side dealing out extrajudicial beatings? (They called it “fag bashing” back in the day.)
Also nobody listen to this idiot either. Since he can't discern an obvious joke and instead chooses to strawman the hell out of it because he clearly doesn't want to address what I and many other people in the thread are actually saying, he's not intelligent enough to be taken seriously.
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Straight to jail.
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