• pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyzOP
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    Folks, we need to sit down and have a serious talk about this, because this is not the first time U.S. cops have been caught running fucking torture houses in major cities.

    This is exactly the kind of bullshit the founding fathers knew would happen when tyranny sets foot on U.S. soil. Say what you will about them, in this case they're absolutely spot-on.

    They founded the U.S. in the middle of a revolution sparked by fuck-shit treatment inflicted upon them like that by the British. They had to fight a particularly nasty war to gain their independence, so they gave us the right to speak and of weapons ownership because they knew, one day, we'd have to do it again.

    We are WAY past that time, folks. Holy shit.

    FYI: We have spooks forum sliding and concern trolling, specifically to discourage you from supporting or joining a revolution.

    They do it because they know how powerful we are when we work together. How powerful we are compared to them and the powers that be. How powerful you are and how important your thoughts, feelings and choices are.

    Why else would they find a simple Lemmy thread enough of a threat to be worthy of attacking?

    So don't listen to them. Don't allow them to manipulate you or to control the conversation. Don't give them the fight that they want. They are clearly speaking in bad faith. Simply downvote them into a hole and stand strong.

    Apes together strong, mofos 😎

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          Good luck getting Lauren Boebert's etc gun's away from her without her calling to action.

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              And then what? Shootouts when any cop tries to detain you? These torture houses aren't the first stop after arrest. And people aren't going to jump straight to lethal violence at a traffic stop.

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                If that's what it takes. It's either that or allow them to continue torturing and oppressing American citizens. Do you really want that on your conscience?

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                    That's a cowardly comment if I've ever read one. You could have just shut up but had to show the world your a afraid to stand up for what's right.

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                    You have been brainwashed as to how horrible a society can become, to the point you think an armed populace rebelling is impossible / impractical.

                    The more people start thinking like you do, the faster we move towards repeating that cycle of oppression the founding fathers attempted to break out of.

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                  OK. Goodluck with that. I don't think it's a sustainable solution right now. But you do you.

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                    Sustainability is the last thing I'm concerned about when it comes to state sanctioned violence.

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              Did they though? I don't think so.

              The Vietnamese people made a good effort and successfully repelled the US military.

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                  Because we left. They were pretty weak until we left.

                  Vietnam on the other hand maintained the ability to inflict major casualties throughout.

                  I'm in agreement with you that poorly equipped groups can make an impact. I disagree that the goat herders in Afghanistan did.

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                    Well, the reason the Vietnamese won was through mastery of the environment. They knew the jungles inside and out, and the American military didn't.

                    We the People need to get to know our cities well because, if something like a revolution actually happens soon, that's where most of the fucking fighting's going to be. Plus, these are cops we're dealing with. Setting up ambushes for them would be pretty easy. It's open fighting during something like, say, a protest that the cops have always held the advantage of, simply because they were willing to use crowd control tactics and take advantage of the lay of the land while protesters were unwilling to.

                    So, know thy streets, to start.

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            It’s not against the military. Nobody mention the army or marines you dummy. This is about the police. We can take those fuckers. Pigs don’t have artillery and air support.

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            It's not "the us military" that they are fighting. Also don't say dumbshit stuff like that since if the "US Military" is bombing american cities your liberal drivel is irrelevant.

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                The police departments that keep doing this shit.

                I actually am being kind of serious about this. The fact that cops are running fucking CIA-style black sites shows us that

                1. They're escalating their oppressive garbage

                2. Some spook is showing them how


                And those alone are enough justification for physically throwing them the fuck out. Go read about the nasty shit the U.S. government did to Middle Eastern men it kidnapped in its war on terror in the 00's. Their tactics are very similar to how this site and other torture mills U.S. cops have been caught running operate.

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                  I think there is some confusion. The context, as I understood it, was that "they" are conservatives and are not fighting the military. So I wanted to know who they were fighting.

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                    It's all good. Questions like yours are exactly why I came out and said what I said. We the people need to have this talk. We should have had it 20 years ago.

                    So I hereby claim specifically that We the People of the United States of America need to start physically overthrowing police departments we catch doing shit like this – and I mean the entire police department of whatever city or county it happens in – and either completely shut down the department or replace every single member wholesale. Physically throw them out; shoot them if necessary. Same with judges, attorneys or any other state actors who participated.

                    If we don't we will subject the Zoomers and Alpha Genners to the same horrors we were forced to grow up in… allowing that to happen is in no way conscionable and if we let cops get away with shit like this, we will have no room to blame Boomers and their horrific abuses for the way the world is. The only ones we'll have to blame at that point is us.

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                  I wonder if more transparency, accountability, and oversight might be a more effective remedy than you know… just killing cops.

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                    They've proven time and time again they're tyrants and are self-aware about it, and therefore need to be physically removed, but we both know you're just here to forum slide and not to have an honest debate, so ignoring you now

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        A lawsuit filed Monday by Baton Rouge grandmother Ternell Brown provides chilling details about one such search. In filings at Baton Rouge’s federal courthouse, Brown recounts how she was out driving on 10 June when two officers, Lawrence Jr and Matthew Wallace, noticed prescription medications in her car during a traffic stop.

        Brown asserts that she had offered to show the cops that she had a valid prescription, but they didn’t want to hear it. They took her to the Brave Cave, ordered her to fully undress, and made her spread her vagina to officers who were men, the lawsuit alleges.

        That's the new normal our kids will be trapped in if we don't.