I think there is some confusion. The context, as I understood it, was that "they" are conservatives and are not fighting the military. So I wanted to know who they were fighting.
It's all good. Questions like yours are exactly why I came out and said what I said. We the people need to have this talk. We should have had it 20 years ago.
So I hereby claim specifically that We the People of the United States of America need to start physically overthrowing police departments we catch doing shit like this – and I mean the entire police department of whatever city or county it happens in – and either completely shut down the department or replace every single member wholesale. Physically throw them out; shoot them if necessary. Same with judges, attorneys or any other state actors who participated.
If we don't we will subject the Zoomers and Alpha Genners to the same horrors we were forced to grow up in… allowing that to happen is in no way conscionable and if we let cops get away with shit like this, we will have no room to blame Boomers and their horrific abuses for the way the world is. The only ones we'll have to blame at that point is us.
You need to stop talking about this and start doing it, otherwise it's just more useless empty talk. Go get your mates and all your guns and evict some police departments and judges.
I look forward to hearing about you on international news, this is going to be huge!
Because he's likely a paid spook out forum sliding. Just downvote and ignore him. Any response you give to him is him successfully distracting you from talking about the scandal or revolution. He's goading you for that purpose.
I'm here because this was a conversation to read and I was bored and scrolling. I got invested because you guys are acting like bad faith actors trying to stoke a 'far left uprising' so the US media and politics can use this as evidence for even more facism.
You're the one who has twice now told people they are all talk and no action and yet are offended by people telling you to take up arms and get on out there to fight the good fight.
If you have any common sense, you'll see that this person calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a 'paid spook' and telling you to ignore them all in favour of listening only to their incendiary drivel- should not be taken seriously to when they tell you to go on a mass murder spree and steal from national guard arsenals.
Go shoot up police stations and murder judges though if you believe that's what you have to do to. No one here is stopping you. Take all your mates and see how far you can get. I'm sure this will be what it takes to set your country right.
(I'm also not male, so don't be using he/him on me)
Bitch, you're the bad faith commentor here. I have no respect for what you are doing and who you are. Please kill yourself and make the world a slightly better place.
🤦 And now I'm being forced to engage with an obvious concern troll for whom I have no hope of convincing to accept the validity of our way of thinking. Wonderful.
To anyone else reading, let's start by pointing out the obvious:
You’re the one who has twice now told people they are all talk and no action and yet are offended by people telling you to take up arms and get on out there to fight the good fight.
You need to stop talking about this and start doing it, otherwise it’s just more useless empty talk. Go get your mates and all your guns and evict some police departments and judges.
So you should be out there, gunning down cops and setting a good example for us! Not whinging online about people telling you to get on with it.
Obvious projection and lies are obvious. I actually specifically said only if necessary anyway so this idiot is obviously just strawmanning the pro-revolution stance, and they're doing it because they are either being paid to do it or are a bootlicker.
A quick check through their post history shows that they're from the UK, and that fact makes me think this idiot in particular is likely some ignorant anti-American bootlicker who couldn't even be assed to read the room. We're Americans. The article is about a torture facility that was secretly being run by cops in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. As in not Britain. Like, have a look at this:
First of all, USAians 🤣
Secondly, someone who is going to undermine American efforts to liberate concentration camps in WW2 because of the same dumbass racists running the police departments I'm advocating we overthrow, specifically to stop concentration camps and literal torture facilities from continuing to operate on U.S. soil, is not someone you should be listening to or taking seriously at all.
Our dumbass troll friend even disrespected a dude whose fucking grandma was liberated from a concentration camp by U.S. troops and they still complain.
Even this post here is a big bag of hot air with no real substantive arguments against revolution at all, so it is any wonder I tell you all to not feed trolls like that?
The most they offer is an attempt to undermine my credibility here:
If you have any common sense, you’ll see that this person calling everyone who doesn’t agree with them a ‘paid spook’ and telling you to ignore them all in favour of listening only to their incendiary drivel- should not be taken seriously
Which doesn't work because you all can go through my post history and watch me cuss out racists and evil people of different sorts, then watch people try to call me out for being angry – like I'm sure our dipshit troll up here will do as soon as they see this because they clearly have an axe to grind – and then relent when I tell them to their faces plainly that I don't care about what they think, because I have done nothing but speak in earnest the entire time I've used Lemmy.
I've ditched entire Lemmy servers when I called them out for not doing anything about Hexbear tankies brigading, or blatant vote manipulation, or rape apologia on their own servers, stuff no one else apparently had the courage to do, because that's just how I roll. And when our dear dipshit concern troll tries to go through my post history to try to discredit me, that's all you'll see.
Because I am being 100% honest, open, and in earnest about this. We need to throw out these shitty governments that blatantly and flagrantly abuse their own people in the most horrific of ways, murder people on the street because of their race, and allow corporations and charlatans to claim our lands and make off with trillions of dollars of our own hard-earned money. I don't care what happens to me as a result of saying what I am saying. If I cared about what anybody thought or would do in kind, I wouldn't have this account.
But we can't say that about this idiot who's obviously just lying and arguing in bad faith simply because they don't like Americans.
Anybody who would seriously oppose revolution against city governments that are raping and torturing their citizens Is Not Someone You Should Take Seriously At All. In no timeline does engaging with anyone like that seriously accomplish anything positive.
They're nothing but an over-inflated bag of immature vitriol and you all need to start treating them as such.
I think there is some confusion. The context, as I understood it, was that "they" are conservatives and are not fighting the military. So I wanted to know who they were fighting.
It's all good. Questions like yours are exactly why I came out and said what I said. We the people need to have this talk. We should have had it 20 years ago.
So I hereby claim specifically that We the People of the United States of America need to start physically overthrowing police departments we catch doing shit like this – and I mean the entire police department of whatever city or county it happens in – and either completely shut down the department or replace every single member wholesale. Physically throw them out; shoot them if necessary. Same with judges, attorneys or any other state actors who participated.
If we don't we will subject the Zoomers and Alpha Genners to the same horrors we were forced to grow up in… allowing that to happen is in no way conscionable and if we let cops get away with shit like this, we will have no room to blame Boomers and their horrific abuses for the way the world is. The only ones we'll have to blame at that point is us.
You need to stop talking about this and start doing it, otherwise it's just more useless empty talk. Go get your mates and all your guns and evict some police departments and judges.
I look forward to hearing about you on international news, this is going to be huge!
Your not even American. Why so invested in this thread?
And why have you commented multiple times telling people to start shooting, while at the same time saying that we shouldn't even talk about it?
Because he's likely a paid spook out forum sliding. Just downvote and ignore him. Any response you give to him is him successfully distracting you from talking about the scandal or revolution. He's goading you for that purpose.
My reason for sharing that was to bring to light that they are commenting in bad faith. It's not for them, it's for other people reading.
It's all good, I am too.
I'm here because this was a conversation to read and I was bored and scrolling. I got invested because you guys are acting like bad faith actors trying to stoke a 'far left uprising' so the US media and politics can use this as evidence for even more facism.
You're the one who has twice now told people they are all talk and no action and yet are offended by people telling you to take up arms and get on out there to fight the good fight.
If you have any common sense, you'll see that this person calling everyone who doesn't agree with them a 'paid spook' and telling you to ignore them all in favour of listening only to their incendiary drivel- should not be taken seriously to when they tell you to go on a mass murder spree and steal from national guard arsenals.
Go shoot up police stations and murder judges though if you believe that's what you have to do to. No one here is stopping you. Take all your mates and see how far you can get. I'm sure this will be what it takes to set your country right.
(I'm also not male, so don't be using he/him on me)
Bitch, you're the bad faith commentor here. I have no respect for what you are doing and who you are. Please kill yourself and make the world a slightly better place.
🤦 And now I'm being forced to engage with an obvious concern troll for whom I have no hope of convincing to accept the validity of our way of thinking. Wonderful.
To anyone else reading, let's start by pointing out the obvious:
Obvious projection and lies are obvious. I actually specifically said only if necessary anyway so this idiot is obviously just strawmanning the pro-revolution stance, and they're doing it because they are either being paid to do it or are a bootlicker.
A quick check through their post history shows that they're from the UK, and that fact makes me think this idiot in particular is likely some ignorant anti-American bootlicker who couldn't even be assed to read the room. We're Americans. The article is about a torture facility that was secretly being run by cops in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. As in not Britain. Like, have a look at this:
First of all, USAians 🤣
Secondly, someone who is going to undermine American efforts to liberate concentration camps in WW2 because of the same dumbass racists running the police departments I'm advocating we overthrow, specifically to stop concentration camps and literal torture facilities from continuing to operate on U.S. soil, is not someone you should be listening to or taking seriously at all.
Our dumbass troll friend even disrespected a dude whose fucking grandma was liberated from a concentration camp by U.S. troops and they still complain.
Even this post here is a big bag of hot air with no real substantive arguments against revolution at all, so it is any wonder I tell you all to not feed trolls like that?
The most they offer is an attempt to undermine my credibility here:
Which doesn't work because you all can go through my post history and watch me cuss out racists and evil people of different sorts, then watch people try to call me out for being angry – like I'm sure our dipshit troll up here will do as soon as they see this because they clearly have an axe to grind – and then relent when I tell them to their faces plainly that I don't care about what they think, because I have done nothing but speak in earnest the entire time I've used Lemmy.
I've ditched entire Lemmy servers when I called them out for not doing anything about Hexbear tankies brigading, or blatant vote manipulation, or rape apologia on their own servers, stuff no one else apparently had the courage to do, because that's just how I roll. And when our dear dipshit concern troll tries to go through my post history to try to discredit me, that's all you'll see.
Because I am being 100% honest, open, and in earnest about this. We need to throw out these shitty governments that blatantly and flagrantly abuse their own people in the most horrific of ways, murder people on the street because of their race, and allow corporations and charlatans to claim our lands and make off with trillions of dollars of our own hard-earned money. I don't care what happens to me as a result of saying what I am saying. If I cared about what anybody thought or would do in kind, I wouldn't have this account.
But we can't say that about this idiot who's obviously just lying and arguing in bad faith simply because they don't like Americans.
Anybody who would seriously oppose revolution against city governments that are raping and torturing their citizens Is Not Someone You Should Take Seriously At All. In no timeline does engaging with anyone like that seriously accomplish anything positive.
They're nothing but an over-inflated bag of immature vitriol and you all need to start treating them as such.
And stop letting them forum slide.