As more and more states pass laws targeting “pornographic material” in books and online, they are repeatedly running up against a problem: The Bible has not just a few passages that could be considered indecent
The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include "vulgar" content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.
There's no hypocrisy here.
Selective enforcement is the core of conservative law making.
Broad generalizations like this do nothing but reinforce echochambers.
It's not a broad generalization at all. It's a widespread pattern of hypocritical and contradictory conservative outrage, statements, and laws.
- "I should be able to teach kids about the Bible in school, but you can't teach them about Yoga"
- "we can't have vulgar language, oh unless it's from our religious book"
- "I can't make a cake for you because you're gay and that's against my religion. What do you mean you won't make a Christian cake? That's religious discrimination!"
- "Happy holidays!??! Happy holidays??! You monster, how dare you wage war on Christmas! We have religious liberty in this country! What do you mean that protects other religions? There's only one God and one religion!"
- "It's totally fine that the polling places in large democratic areas have hours long waits so long as my polling places are quick and easy"
- "it's totally fine that a county with 10,000 people has the same number of ballot drop boxes as a country with 3,000,000 people"
- "marriage is between a man and woman … and may include 17 divorces; they gays can't have it"
- "we need to teach kids (i.e., indoctrinate them in the ways of) Jesus not this woke (black history, trans, etc)"
- "let's let white kids off with a slap on the wrist while we throw a black kid in jail for smoking a plant"
- "I can't believe a president could have such a scandal in the white house as to have had an affair with an assistant! We need to impeach! No, I don't think extorting an ally for information about an opponent is worthy of an impeachment! Trying to overthrow a legitimate presidental victor with a procedural trick? Nah that's not worth an impeachment either! Oh but hey, this Biden guy's son who lost one of his parents and a sibling in a car crash, that lost his brother to cancer, that has a drug problem, called his dad while he was in business meetings to show off… so you know his dad definitely was up to something! We've got to impeach him over that! What do you mean that was before he was even president and that's completely unprecedented?"
- "We should totally lock her up for those emails! What do you mean the guy screaming that's son and law did the exact same thing?"
- "We're sorry we can't appoint a supreme court justice just before the election! Psych! We totally can if it's nominated by OUR president!"
- "We need law and order in this country! What do you mean Trump broke the law? Nah, I'm not hearing it; this is clearly a partisan witch hunt and the majority conservative staff of the FBI is out to get conservatives! Oh but we'll DEFINITELY weaponize the federal government and go after our political rivals full steam if we get the presidency in 2024"
- "I believe abortion is amoral, that's why I hid the fact that my ex/current lovers have had one"
- "I believe homosexuality is amoral, that's why I am one in the closet"
- "we're going to be the party of health care, but don't watch as we strip you of your federal protections for your health care"
- "we're the party of the little man, but don't watch as we cut taxes for the rich (and you but make sure that expires under the next term (probably while the Democrats are in power)"
- "the national debt is an outage! Oh let's spend as much as Obama did in half the time! Oh Biden is in power again, spending is out of control!"
- "the problem isn't guns it's mental health, but we're not going to do anything about that either! Must be because the kids aren't in church, the gays, video games, or hey look over there, a squirrel!"
- "climate change? Nah. It's not real. Okay maybe it is, but it doesn't matter because look at China! Oh we could make a dent and get the ball rolling? Well, it's too late anyways, we should've been building nuclear plants! What do you mean I just made that up? Clearly I've been trying to solve this via nuclear the whole time, and it's not another dog whistle! Oh and btw all of my top presidential candidates say they don't believe in man made climate change! But yeah, totally serious about this issue!!"
… and that's just off the top of my head. If you're a conservative, wake up, your party is a mess.
Spoiler: he'll completely ignore this comment and just continue to go on saying that all criticisms of conservatives are baseless and unproductive
I'll be honest, the point was less for him and more for lurkers, that might not pay as much attention and might benefit from an outline. I gave up on changing the mind of the person I'm replying to on the internet a long time ago (if it happens great!) … but I want to challenge and cut through the "noise" for the casual observer.
That's the only single reason I debunk conservatives with some of their tactics thrown back at them. In a forum, I'm pretty much am blocked by nearly every conservatives there.
Don't put words in my mouth or accuse my of something you made up in your mind.
I don't need to put any words into your mouth, your reply to the comment was to ignore all the real, objectively true examples and just claim that despite the fact that they're the actions of real conservative policy makers, that they somehow have nothing to do with real conservative policy
You ignore the faults of real world conservatism, holding up this idealistic version of conservatism you have in your head as "real" conservatism. Ill bet you also hold that conservatism has nothing to do with anti-LGBT+, despite their policy makers constantly making anti-LGBT+ policy decisions
You're completely ignorant of who I am and you're reinforcing my initial point that we should be careful about creating an echochamber.
You definitely win the internet with this comment.
You are a machine!
Yeah… I agree. None of that makes selective enforcement the core of conservative laws.
I'd argue it does, conservative lawmaking has consistently operated with a distinct understanding (and execution) that shows "this applies to them not us." I'd love for conservative law makers to do what they say and say what they mean. However, they won't and thus can't build a coalition that gets them elected by being honest about their policy goals.
Conservative law making in the US has become at its core "outrage politics" (and that depends on selectively enforcing ideals, policies, and laws/antagonizing part of the population). I don't make generalizations lightly, but this is the core and fundamental piece holding the Republican party together, and it's an awful state of affairs.
This can be further demonstrated by Vivek Ramaswamy climbing in the polls despite, as Chris Christie put it, "sounding like ChatGPT."
I'm done with this conversation, you lot are ignorant, loud, and preventing actual progress and critical discourse.
You want to talk about outrage politics? You morons are outrage politics. Fuck off.
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K. When you figure out what discourse you want to have come back without an empty argument.
You've just proven everyone else's point that wrote you off. You've made no supportive arguments for your position and resorted to an opaque moral high ground where everyone else is an idiot.
Sort of, but also, Christianity is a death cult that enables child molesters and promotes hate, so there is not much room for subtly. It is also profoundly lacking in any basis of reality and frankly teaches deranged ideas that harm children's ability to make rational judgments about reality.
Also a church is the worst kind of echo chamber.
Broadly speaking though, it's true. Do you have counter examples to offer?
A counter example of what? A conservative law that doesn't have selective enforcement at its core?
Have you got one?
No, I'm done with this stupid conversation and closer to believing Lemmy is a cesspool echo chamber than before it started. You people are fucking idiots that detract from reasonable discourse and progress on the left.
And by the way, I'm far from conservative, I hate Trump and all the other extremist authoritarian assholes, and I'm starting to realize you lot are almost as stupid as the MAGA fascists.
Downvote me and fuck off.
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Dude just shut the fuck up and leave Lemmy then. Clearly you aren't interested in any actual conversation, so why the fuck would we want you here to begin with? Do us the favor of walking away.
Porn just needs some inspirational quotes to go along with it.
Fuck yeah, spread it
We all knew they were gonna figure out a way that the law doesn't apply to them and the stuff they like. That's like the fundamental constant of conservatives, it's different when we do it because we're not those people.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” –Francis M. Wilhoit
TBF understanding that horses are known for their voluminous ejaculation is critical knowledge for children.
God is a brony confirmed
Reddit against religion. Hand me the popcorn.
The Davis School District initially removed the Bible from school libraries after a review determined it did include “vulgar” content. But the school board unanimously reversed its decision after a review by an appeal committee determined the text has " significant, serious value for minors which outweighs the violent or vulgar content it contains," the AP reported.
Now to challenge the “significant, serious” value. Truth before law is based on facts, right?
Deuteronomy 28:53-57, where you eat the flesh of your own children seems kinda indecent
Or pretty much all of Song of Solomon.
Example (Song of Solomon 7:6-9):
How beautiful you are and how pleasing, my love, with your delights! Your stature is like that of the palm, and your breasts like clusters of fruit. I said, “I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.” May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. May the wine go straight to my beloved, flowing gently over lips and teeth.
Can people please respect others' religions? Please? There's a lot of hate in these comments and it makes me really sad to see this frequently on Lemmy.
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A proprietary, for-profit version of Lemmy
