• gowan@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    No, I did not just see asupply curve nor did the dozens of economists polled. The fact is it has failed to make housing more available or decreased the cost of housing when implemented.

    Arguing for rent control is the economic equivalent if arguing against climate change. Pretty much everyone is in agreement on the issue.

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      1 year ago

      Except climate change is backed up by data studied and gathered by real scientists the vast majority of which are under no pressure to prove it.

      Rent control attacks are generated by economists. A pseudoscience employed by the banks to create propaganda.

      They are not the same.

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      The point is to provide relief for those who can’t afford rent.

      Please show me actual economic modelling using real world data of the negative impacts of rent control. You know, something that isn’t just theoretical extrapolations based on the non-existent supply and demand curve done by someone who spent too much time reading propaganda on mises.org

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        1 year ago

        I literally link to the IGM forum.

        https://www.kentclarkcenter.org/surveys/rent-control/

        If you have no idea who that is it is a collection some of the most highly regarded economists in the world. They universally turn their back in the policy. You are arguing with the consensus of the largest group of academic economists we currently have

        It is odd that you are accusing me of being an AnCap for representing perhaps the least controversial opinion in academic economics. Perhaps you should look into taking even just 101 which MIT has on line for free to rectify your inexperience and lack of education.

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          What is that link? So over a decade ago, 40 people that I don’t know indicated their opinion about rent control on a website. That’s your proof? Of what exactly? What was the methodology in which they were selected? Come on, some basic science please!

          At any rate that’s not an economic model involving real world data. It’s just a poll on website that 40 people responded to.

          And I did take Econ 101. And also Econ 201 where they explain the requirements for supply and demand: -Free movement of labour -Infinite number of competing companies -Perfect knowledge -No barriers to entry

          In other words, things that are impossible in the real world.

          Looking at a supply and demand curve and thinking you know about economics is like reading Act 1 of Romeo and Juliet and thinking you’re a PhD in English Literature. Supply and demand is theoretically how things are supposed to work which you learn about in Econ 101. Beyond Econ 101, most of economics is about why it doesn’t work like that in the real world what regulations are needed to approximate something vaguely resembling supply and demand. And sometimes a regulation that moves away from supply and demand in one market can get us closer to a reasonable supply and demand approximation in other markets. As I mentioned before, rent control helps the labour market, which is kinda important.

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            You could click on each name to realize they are all economists or youcould read the sentence where I mention they are all economists.

            The poll results you are arguing against is a consensus of experts. If you think you know better I think you need to takea second to ask why a person with no education in economics would know better than a group of people with doctorates.

            You took 101 and 201 and you have no idea who the University of Chicago’s IGM forum is? You either went to a clown collage, paid no attention in macro, or are completely full of shit. I strongly suspect you are lying about your credentials here as again the view Im giving would have been taught to you.

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              Ok, so you got nothing but appeal to authority, and the “authority” is a decade old poll that 40 people responded to on a janky website?

              Apparently this IGM forum is something paid for by the Chicago Stock Exchange. I don’t see any indication of the methodology they used to select these particular people. Given the source of their funding, it makes me a little suspicious. $1.5 million to 40 economists to answer an email once a week? Was the Chicago Stock Exchange paying that money for honest answers or were they paying for the answers they wanted to hear?

              And they don’t seem to do any macroeconomic analysis. Methinks it’s just some bullshit meant to influence public opinion. I guess it worked on you.