Former Proud Boys national leader Enrique Tarrio is set to be sentenced on Wednesday for a failed plot to keep Donald Trump in power after the Republican lost the 2020 presidential election, capping one of the most significant prosecutions in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Prosecutors are seeking 33 years behind bars for Tarrio, who had already been arrested and ordered to leave Washington, D.C., by the time Proud Boys members joined thousands of Trump supporters in storming the Capitol as lawmakers met to certify Democrat Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral victory. But prosecutors say Tarrio organized and led the group’s assault from afar, inspiring followers with his charisma and penchant for propaganda.
Tarrio was a top target in one of the most important Capitol riot cases prosecuted by the Justice Department. He and three lieutenants were convicted in May of charges including seditious conspiracy — a rarely brought Civil War-era offense that the Justice Department levied against members of far-right groups who played a key role in the Jan. 6 attack.
As much as I know the prison system is broken and terrible, this guy deserves what he is getting.
He led an attempt to overthrow the fucking government. Anybody who tries to obfuscate that fact or justify what happened is playing a dangerous game. It was lucky that the violence didn’t escalate to an even more serious degree, and turn this nation on its head more than it already has. What they attempted to do has irrevocably damaged American society, and the strength of our democracy.
Therefore, I hope he serves all 33 years.
And from what I saw in interviews, he knows the whole thing is all bullshit. He just wants to sell more merchandise to Trump’s gullible base. This guy committed sedition with the sole purpose of selling t-shirts.
I’m all for reforming the prison system. However I think it’s funny these people are crying about it now that they are subject to it after not caring about others in the prison system.
Commit domestic terrorist acts get domestic terrorist sentences.
.>Commit domestic terrorist acts get domestic terrorist sentences.
I mean, they said it…
Prosecutors are seeking 33 years behind bars for Tarrio
Finally some punishments that fit the crime. None of this 6 weeks in prison bullshit like some of these J6 people have been getting. Heck, this traitor deserves a one-way trip in front of a firing squad, but 33 years is fine too.
Now let’s see what he actually gets sentences with.
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My guess is trump kept it nice and stochastic with stand back and stand by. Also, if he had beans to spill he would have already cut a deal
I’m going to get shit for this.
While I believe that Trump knew exactly what he was saying, and I’m sure there were people who knew what they were doing… The vast majority of those people are just deeply deeply stupid individuals who had no planning whatsoever and got wrapped up with a dumb dumb crowd being riled up by key individuals.
6 weeks in federal prison in addition to having to keep a job as a federal felon isn’t exactly a slap on the wrist. Most of what I would call organizers are being tried pretty heavily and those cases take longer against better equipped defendants. I don’t think being punitive for the idiots is the best strategy politically either.
I agree. The person yelling “FIRE” in the theater is far more guilty than the idiots stampeding to get out.
Not only were a lot of these people stupid but a lot were likely YUGE losers who finally felt important for the first time in their lives, after Trump blew all that smoke up their asses about being great Patriots.
Won’t these people lose gun rights if they are felons? (Not American so not sure)
Except that they were all yelling fire. Oh wait! They were all yelling “kill all the congress critters” and “all hail Emperor Trump”. I’d say that makes the lot of them anything but innocent or stupid people caught up in something they didn’t understand.
For contrast, if a few hundred African Americans with guns stormed the US capital for any reason at all, most would have been shot and the remainder would be facing life imprisonment. It’s only the fact the most were white or white oriented that has protected any of the coup members from facing the legitimate consequences of their actions. And the same forces will eventually allow them to prevail and ensure the US becomes a theocratic ethnostate. Or at least more of one than it already is.
I don’t disagree that black protesters would have been handled far more violently. It still doesn’t change my opinion that it was a premeditated coup.
I am not a lawyer but personally don’t think these people satisfy the mens rea aspects at all and as such shit be by law treated with a lesser degree crime then those escalating what I believe was genuine protesting among the majority population.
I know that’s not how a black crowd would be treated, that is a separate challenge that must be addressed.
They went to a rally where Trump told them Congress was full of traitors and to storm the building to make sure they didn’t remove him from office. That crowd knew exactly what they were doing. The only reason they get the benefit of ac doubt from you or anyone is because our society has taught us that those who are considered white can largely do whatever they like… especially if it involves violence. That’s all it is. That’s the benefit of white privilege at its peak: that a bunch of white people and their little cronies are even allowed to overturn the results of an election using violence and face minimal consequences.
The only thing they did wrong was they were unsuccessful. Had they succeeded everyone would be praising them like they were liberators. 🙄
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For contrast, if a few hundred African Americans with guns stormed the US capital for any reason at all, most would have been shot and the remainder would be facing life imprisonment.
Is this hypothetical group of people supposed to be in compliance with the laws governing the carry of firearms in Washington D.C.?
FWIW, 26 armed Black Panthers entered the state capitol of California on May 2, 1967 to protest the passage of the Mulford Act. Five were charged with disrupting a legislative session, a misdemeanor. No shots were fired. YMMV.
Good points. I depressingly agree with you but still think the ringleaders are more guilty.
Won’t these people lose gun rights if they are felons? (Not American so not sure)
Yes. Ownership as well as possession of a firearm by a felon is a criminal offense. The right to vote is lost as well.
Some rights may be restored in some states.
Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey, hey! Goodbye!
I thought it was only seven "na"s.
No, he has the nas right, it’s the heys he’s short on.
Is the second ‘hey’ not a long ‘hey?’ That’s how it always sounded to me.
May he rot.
Just read the hearings are rescheduled for Tuesday, Sept 5th. Judge is out sick.
I’m a bit surprised, but happy to see this.
The sentencing won’t be happening today after all. The judge fell ill today, so it’ll be delayed until some time next week.
33 years would be satisfactory.
Apologies in advance for stupid questions as I’m not American but… just been reading up on Proud Boys and that guy is not how shall I say… white?
So
- How is he a leader of such an extreme right wing group?
- How does he have followers? Ideologically shouldn’t they hate him?
- FUCK HIM glad the hateful bastard is gonna rot, reap what you sow
There was a bit of a kerfuffle over that. I don’t follow it closely enough to know how that turned out.
33 years? Doesn’t possessing pot net you 25? 33 years for seditious treason doesn’t seem like a serious enough sentence.
United States Justice system is a joke.
No, it doesn’t. Where are you getting your info?
Possessing Pot by offense count, min-max sentence, min-max fine
- 0 days - 1 year, $0-1000
- 15 days - 2 years, $0-2500
- 90 days - 3 years, $0-5000
(3 is actually 3+ but that does weird things to the list format.)
Separately, Seditious Conspiracy has a max jail time of 20 years (I couldn’t find any cap on its fine), so this means Tarrio is being sentenced for both it and at least 1 other charge (which could be a second count of the same for all I know).
Except pot is likely being charged at the state level and not federal. That’ll be different for every state and some could have egregious punishments. Not that that says you’re wrong or the other guy is right. Just some context.
I guess we’ll just pretend there aren’t hordes of people in the US serving decades for weed, then.
Among several reasons your statement is disingenuous is the incredibly significant point that many weed crimes are not possession. I replied to someone discussing possession with more discussion of possession. Many people are serving time for “weed” without serving time for possession, which you absolutely knew when you posted your comment.
Pretty sure that was sarcasm/hyperbole.
Edit: Apparently people are touchy today… Yeesh
United States Justice system is a joke.
Agreed. Prison in the US is tortuous and that is the point. It ruins your prospects when you get out, too. Ensuring crime is more likely. Prison in the US is absolutely pointless in the vast majority of cases to actually decrease crime.
America also has disproportionately long prison sentences for all types of crimes. 33 years ensures this person will be ~72yo when he gets out. So he will immediately be on medicare and likely retired, if possible. At that point, the only reason to not just execute a person is because you could later overturn the conviction.
We keep people in prison so long we’re effectively denying them any more life while also spending huge gobs of money to do so AND also denying them any productivity to benefit society. It really is just about the American bloodthirst for revenge.
