That’s not a good argument. The workers are being paid to do the job. The same way Garbage collecters, crossing guards, etc are being paid to be outside.
Idk why you are getting downvoted. I agree, they are getting paid to do it and if they want to do something different, there’s menial, low level jobs everywhere. It’s not at the expense of someone else, and why are other people complaining about someone else’s job for them? What if they don’t mind it? What if they really need the money and it’s just a job and it’s fine? I’m not saying it’s not a stupid law or anything but jeez people. Chill.
How about health? Nobody should have to work a job that puts their future health at risk, especially a pointless job such as this. There are not a ton of studies on it but the ones that have been done show some of the effects from breathing in fumes majority of the day and it does negatively effect you where it could lead to higher % of complications later on. Of course people will argue against these claims, but who really wants to find out? It’s a job nobody should have to do so nobody should have to take the risk at all.
I used to change people’s oil for a living and get soaked in the stuff all day long. We should ban lube shops too as changing your own oil is super easy and only takes minutes to do yourself.
Should we also eliminat landscaping jobs due to the negative health risk? They’re have to work in the blazing heat of the summer, using loud equipment, breathing in fumes. According to you, we should ban landscaping companies, and make everyone take care of the own lawns and yards.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
Many jobs have some sort of health risk, gas attendents included.
Once again, I am not for or against the law in NJ. If they got rid of the law tomorrow, than I couldn’t care less. I’m perfectly capable of pumping my own gas, and have done so both in and out of state. I just like the convenience of not having to do it.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
So you provide one picture, and that is supposed to negate my argument? There are still flaggers being employed, and you completely ignore the rest of my previous comment.
This is such a ridiculous take. If we can get rid of a dangerous job, we should. If we can’t, they should get extra money as hazard pay, not minimum wage or just above it. If the argument is, but that job isn’t hard, maybe just maybe we shouldn’t mandate it exist just for the sake of having anything and actually take care of people.
Pretty sure landscapers don’t get paid well enough to work such a dangerous job. Almost everyone should capable of mowing there own lawn in 100 degree weather, right?
Their* and you seem to have missed the mandate and conditional portions of my comment. I never said make the job illegal. I said don’t mandate it exists. Funny how that’s different.
Do I need a scientific study to know that me getting out of my car and pumping my own gas is faster than waiting for an attendant to come over, take my card, ask me which gas grade I want, whether or not to fill it up, have them walk away to service other customers, mine finished while they’re in the middle of talking to someone else, now I wait for them to come back over…
Do you ask questions this stupid in real life, or are you just being dumb online?
The rest of the country figured out how to use a credit card terminal and pump their own gas decades ago. Welcome to 2023 - we don’t have flying cars, but even grandma knows how Apple Pay works.
Y’all are BOTH making invalid arguments. There are pros and cons to both methods. You have each grown accustomed to one way and the other way seems strange to each of you. It’s not like one of you is wrong and one right.
I grew up in Oregon but have pumped gas when traveling in other states. Getting out to pump your gas is a minor inconvenience. Waiting for an attendant to serve you is a minor inconvenience. Each of you is simply used to a different minor inconvenience.
Why would you want that bullshit?
I’m not for or against this law. I just like not having to get out of my car when it’s freezing outside.
At the expense of someone else being outside for hours?
That’s not a good argument. The workers are being paid to do the job. The same way Garbage collecters, crossing guards, etc are being paid to be outside.
Idk why you are getting downvoted. I agree, they are getting paid to do it and if they want to do something different, there’s menial, low level jobs everywhere. It’s not at the expense of someone else, and why are other people complaining about someone else’s job for them? What if they don’t mind it? What if they really need the money and it’s just a job and it’s fine? I’m not saying it’s not a stupid law or anything but jeez people. Chill.
How about health? Nobody should have to work a job that puts their future health at risk, especially a pointless job such as this. There are not a ton of studies on it but the ones that have been done show some of the effects from breathing in fumes majority of the day and it does negatively effect you where it could lead to higher % of complications later on. Of course people will argue against these claims, but who really wants to find out? It’s a job nobody should have to do so nobody should have to take the risk at all.
I used to change people’s oil for a living and get soaked in the stuff all day long. We should ban lube shops too as changing your own oil is super easy and only takes minutes to do yourself.
Again, none one is forcing them to work there.
Should we also eliminat landscaping jobs due to the negative health risk? They’re have to work in the blazing heat of the summer, using loud equipment, breathing in fumes. According to you, we should ban landscaping companies, and make everyone take care of the own lawns and yards.
Why have flaggers for road work? Drivers should just learn to slow for road work. People shouldn’t be forced to work such a pointless and dangerous job, right?
Many jobs have some sort of health risk, gas attendents included.
Once again, I am not for or against the law in NJ. If they got rid of the law tomorrow, than I couldn’t care less. I’m perfectly capable of pumping my own gas, and have done so both in and out of state. I just like the convenience of not having to do it.
Umm…
So you provide one picture, and that is supposed to negate my argument? There are still flaggers being employed, and you completely ignore the rest of my previous comment.
Dude, I was just being funny. Chill, what is this Reddit??
This is such a ridiculous take. If we can get rid of a dangerous job, we should. If we can’t, they should get extra money as hazard pay, not minimum wage or just above it. If the argument is, but that job isn’t hard, maybe just maybe we shouldn’t mandate it exist just for the sake of having anything and actually take care of people.
Pretty sure landscapers don’t get paid well enough to work such a dangerous job. Almost everyone should capable of mowing there own lawn in 100 degree weather, right?
Their* and you seem to have missed the mandate and conditional portions of my comment. I never said make the job illegal. I said don’t mandate it exists. Funny how that’s different.
Where I live, the business can choose. We have both options. People rarely choose the full serve since it’s more expensive.
That’s fine as well. If NJ allowed businesses to choose than I’d likely do full serve when I don’t feel like doing myself.
Why do I want to get out my car and do that bullshit. Let someone else do it
Because it’s faster and it’s really easy.
Sure it’s easy. And it’s fast either way. Let the other person do it. I’ll stay in my car
Is it faster? What studies did you do to conclude that?
Do I need a scientific study to know that me getting out of my car and pumping my own gas is faster than waiting for an attendant to come over, take my card, ask me which gas grade I want, whether or not to fill it up, have them walk away to service other customers, mine finished while they’re in the middle of talking to someone else, now I wait for them to come back over…
Do you ask questions this stupid in real life, or are you just being dumb online?
Personal attack, enjoy your block, while you are waiting for all the pumps blocked by people not able to use the credit card reader.
Oh no some random dipshit blocked me, what will I do
Lol that shit never happens enough to matter. Get a grip.
@minorsecond @afraid_of_zombies
afraid of zombies seems to be afraid of everything.
The rest of the country figured out how to use a credit card terminal and pump their own gas decades ago. Welcome to 2023 - we don’t have flying cars, but even grandma knows how Apple Pay works.
Gotcha that is why I have never once in my entire life been stuck waiting on a line outside of my state.
Ok, bud. Have a great day.
That is impressive levels of lazy.
I guess you don’t pay anyone to do anything in your life
Not something that easy, no. Would you pay someone to tie your shoelaces too?
Pretty idiotic example. Can’t come up with something better?
No, it’s not, it fits perfectly with how simple the task is. The fact that you think it doesn’t fit just furthers my point.
I didn’t realize that I was talking to someone who’s every task is simple. Fuckn clown. Lol
Lol, impressive levels of lazy
Y’all are BOTH making invalid arguments. There are pros and cons to both methods. You have each grown accustomed to one way and the other way seems strange to each of you. It’s not like one of you is wrong and one right.
I grew up in Oregon but have pumped gas when traveling in other states. Getting out to pump your gas is a minor inconvenience. Waiting for an attendant to serve you is a minor inconvenience. Each of you is simply used to a different minor inconvenience.
Chill.