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    You use this word correlation but I don’t think it means what you think it means. What kind of direct correlation is there between the NRA and school shootings? Please give specific examples of NRA funded or trained shooters.

    I've just spelled out the correlation, it's not my fault you're incapable or unwilling to read.

    Let me dumb it down so that everyone can understand:

    1. school shooter goes on a rampage with an easily acquired gun.

    2. understandable national outrage occurs, talks about new gun laws start taking place

    3. right wing organisations, most prominently the NRA, lobby against these laws and try to turn public attention against them through barefaced lies (eg: blame on videogames, media, and espousal of a bunch of theories that are either proven bunk such as 'good guy with a gun' or plain don't apply ('good guy with a gun' in a school setting, where the good guy with a gun simply isn't there, are too few in number and skills to contain the situation, or would simply be mistaken for a hostile actor by other good guys with guns.))

    4. proposed fixes get delayed or scrapped

    5. thoughts and prayers but no real action

    6. go to step 1 and repeat thousands of times over.

    Most other countries got off this shitshow ride the first or second time this happened. The US is the only first world country where this still happens, because they don't put in gun control, and literal murder machines can be bought as easily as a games console.

    There are many standing laws on the books that violate the 2A. Fortunately there have been a number of cases rolling back these infringements on our collective rights.

    And the result is more bloodshed. How is that fortunate?

    Go back and read the 2A again. All of it. Notice something peculiar? The 2A explicitly states that it exists in light of the fact that armed individuals were a necessity for national security. It was written back when the US didn't have a standing military or police force. Now that it does, there's a pretty strong argument that the 2A, as written, should no longer apply.

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      1 year ago

      Your deductive reasoning is… special. I think you and this guy would get along great.

      https://youtu.be/sDEL4Ty950Q?si=m9i3fLvrB-1KD3TK

      As for the 2A, you might be in a rush to give up your rights. Millions of us who exercise our rights daily don’t agree with your flawed assumptions about a society 200 years ago. The 2A is as valid now as it was then.

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        1 year ago

        Your deductive reasoning is… special

        Says the person who is totally okay with letting literally everyone have firearms.

        Millions of us who exercise our rights daily don’t agree with your flawed assumptions about a society 200 years ago.

        And there are hundreds of millions more of us that stare at the US in utter shock and disbelief when this happens.

        You see, I don't live in the US. Because of that, I don't have to worry about gun violence. Because of that, our schools don't have shooter drills and are kids aren't forced to adopt war mindframes.

        Like I said, we nipped it in the bud here the first couple of times it happened.

        We nipped it in the bud with gun control. And it worked.

        As for the 2A, you might be in a rush to give up your rights.

        What rights? You mean like our right to safety? Our right to life?

        Because in America, that's all sold up river because people like you who don't want to be inconvenienced by a bit of fucking paperwork.

        Yes, you read that right, 'gun control' doesn't mean 'gun ban'. Even in the UK, you can legally get firearms. You just need a license, and for that you need firearms training and a valid reason, such as pest control on a farm.

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          1 year ago

          You see, I don't live in the US.

          Lol that’s all you had to say homie. Eat shit and die in whatever commie hell hole you call home. Your opinion means nothing to me.

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            1 year ago

            Lol touch grass bro. Why don't you get yourself a passport and travel some? You might learn a lot.