A 25-year-old suspect is in custody on a sexual abuse charge after allegedly following and assaulting the former Arizona senator while she was running on Wednesday

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    Why do you think that is and what can be done about it?

    Only a couple years ago a 21yo man r*d a 15 year old

    Can you link to the details of this case? I'm curious if she was willing or unwilling at the time of the encounter.

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        Why do you think police don't do anything and what do you think can be done about it?

        She was not legally able to consent in that situation, no matter the circumstances.

        I'm not referring to the legal definition of consent. I'm referring to if she, individually, was willing or unwilling.

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            Calm down. If you don't want to answer if she was willing or not, just say that. I didn't ask about pedophilia being wrong or the legal definition of consent. Those are different discussions.

            Do you think the difficulty in proving rape might be a factor in why police don't take it as seriously as say, murder, vandalism, or theft?

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                So what word would you use to describe if they are forced vs. choosing? That's what I'm referring to. It has nothing to do with the law. It seems you're really focused on the legal definitions, which change depending on the jurisdiction.

                is no harder to prosecute than any other crime.

                I don't agree with that, but I'm also not a criminal justice expert. It seems to me that investigating rape requires actual… investigation. People need to ask questions and learn about very specific relationships in order to paint a clear picture of what's going on. Not always, but if it's easy to find evidence then it's hard to avoid prosecution.

                Perhaps private investigators would be better for proving rape allegations. They can scrounge up the evidence and present it to the public so the DA can file charges. I just don't see an incentive for cops to play the role of investigators when they can just drive around and focus on more 'obvious' crimes.

                The very fact that you are here dismissing the experiences of women is misogynistic.

                When did I dismiss anyone's experiences?

                Those crimes… they’re responded to very seriously by law enforcement

                It depends. My car was broken into and I didn't bother reporting it because I figured the cops wouldn't do anything about it. Same goes for all my friends.

                I can see how misogyny can be the reason for ignoring evidence and testimony. I was mostly curious what you thought prevented cops from seeking the evidence in the first place.

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              Hey, you think you are being reasonable. You are not. You are deliberately prodding someone who has been traumatised, with their trauma. You are inconsiderate and rude, and if you have empathy you will apologise to the lady for being such a dick.

              If you want to have that discussion, have it with people who won't be forced to re-live a horrible thing that happened to them. And ask if someone is willing to talk about it before just jumping in with your questions.

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                Lol, what? You're hurling insults at me left and right while telling me I'm being inconsiderate and rude.

                If they don't want to answer, that's completely fine. The question is still there for others who do.

                I'm going to block you now. I don't have to put up with this disrespect.

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                  I pointed out what you are doing, politely but firmly. If you think that's an insult, look to your own behaviour. Personally, I'd be pretty mortified to be a rape apologist too.

                  As to respect, show it to others and you'll get it in return. You weren't (and aren't), so you don't.