• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    We need universal mental health care full stop. Even if you're against universal health care in general, and I don't know why anyone would be, start with universal mental health care.

    Get people assessed, get them the treatment they need. If they need to be held the rest of their lives, figure out how to make that work safely and humanely.

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      Even if you’re against universal health care in general, I don’t know why anyone would be

      To break it down:

      1. Degenerates want free shit, I don't want to pay for other people's free shit; make them get a job like everyone else if they want healthcare
      2. Free healthcare is the first step to full blown communism
      3. Free healthcare means death lists made by the government
      4. Liberals are trying to use free healthcare in order to turn the people against us conservatives
      5. Our country can't afford healthcare for everyone

      I feel dumber for having written in that voice, and dirty too, yuck.

      And now the retort for these arguments:

      1. Guess what, hoss, we're all paying for it either way, and usually a ton more if it's emergency instead of preventative care.
      2. Is that what your foxnews/oan/newsmax has been telling you? Do you think medicare is communism? Do you think the military is communism? It might be a form of socialism, but more like a single payer system, where the providers are everyday private doctors.
      3. Does medicare have death lists? Do the military hospitals have death lists? Does obamacare have death lists?
      4. Trying to give the people what they want and need for the better health of everyone is going to politically sway voters? Then better get on that boat before it sails, there's room for everyone!
      5. Our country can't afford the current mess of a medical system that we already have, largely due to spending the most out of any industrialized country, yet having worse health outcomes, and for the fewest percentage of citizens even getting care in the first place.

      So yes indeed, it is beyond me why in the fuck a large portion of my fellow citizens are hellbent on keeping the status quo (oh wait, it's due their thorough brainwashing that keeps them in that trance).

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        1 year ago

        Gotta keep funding the insurance companies so they can profit by denying care. What was that about death lists?

        My wife also points out that for entirely too many people #1 reads as:

        "1. Black and brown people want free shit, I don't want to pay for black and brown people's free shit; make them get a job like everyone else if they want healthcare."

        But you know they wouldn't be polite enough to say "black and brown people".

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          Idk about that, these days they are pretty emboldened by Trump to just say all kinds of racist shit out loud.

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        #3 Insurance companies exist as death panels currently. Their entire purpose is to deny life saving procedures as frequently as possible.