“Violating international law” is pretty sterile/soft verbiage for fucking war crimes.
We have a Jewish politician open criticizing Israel, I'm pretty sure that says more than enough on its own
What do you mean? Jewish politicians are the only ones allowed to even mildly criticize Israel, because anti-semitism claims against them are taken slightly less seriously.
Spot on. Bernie has been called an anti-Semite before, he will probably be called one again for this and I'm sure it won't be the last time he is called one.
And cue someone from the GOP calling him an antisemite/Nazi in 3… 2… 1…
Nazi Jew Mystery Stories: The Case of the Missing Fucks Given
Once again, massive swinging dick Bernie Sanders is one of the few bold enough to actually spit truth, no matter how much shit he catches for it.
And he's Jewish.
Maybe its not the "jews" and the "palestanians" but the israeli government and hamas thats causing the problem. Also israel is a huge weapons testing facility for the us basically.
You're right, it's not the Jews and the Palestinians, it's Hamas and Israel. But any criticism of Israel is seen as antisemitism.
Make it a point to say the Israeli Government
Only by idiots
There are a lot of idiots in the world.
And they can be ignored
I watched Sanders a couple of Dutch interview shows in the past few days because his latest book was translated to Dutch. He seemed sharp as a whip.
Sanders also reiterated his prior condemnation of the Hamas attack, calling it a “major setback for any hope of peace and reconciliation in the region – and justice for the Palestinian people.”
There was never any hope of peace and reconciliation and justice. 🙄
Not with that attitude.
No, not with any knowledge of the last 70 years in the region.
Extremists on both side of this conflict want nothing but the extermination of the other and have been saying so for decades.
The world has been trying to broker any sort of solution for all that time but the political leaders on each side do not believe the other has a right to exist.
Grow up lol
EDIT ooh yeah keep downvoting Ledditors, I welcome your hatred 😜
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So glad zionists don't control the narrative this time.
It seems like the internet is doing it's job, for once.
They do sadly. The media has repeated Israeli lies again and again even when provided with no proof of their claims. The whole baby beheading thing got spread so much that Joe Biden ended up calling it out and later clarified that they don't have proof as well.
And Reddit has been banning pro Palestine subs and users from yesterday.
I sincerely doubt they're banning "pro-palestine" subs and users and are banning the ones supporting Hamas and mindless violence. Reddit is far more anti-zionist than any other social media, for example.
Not to say that the Israeli propaganda machine isn't running, but there is definitely a portion of antisemitic backing for Hamas (not Palestine) that's going to get places banned for not following reddit's sitewide rules about hate (just have to use some dogwhistles to get around it tho).
While it's still evil as fuck to see so much both sides garbage, I have yet to see anyone outright supporting the Zionists in this.
I think saying Israel has a 'blank check' to do whatever they want to Gaza is 'outright supporting Zionists.'
Yeah, you're right.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
"For many, it is no secret that Gaza has been an open-air prison, with millions of people struggling to secure basic necessities," Sanders said in a statement issued on Wednesday.
"Israel's blanket denial of food, water, and other necessities to Gaza is a serious violation of international law and will do nothing but harm innocent civilians."
Sanders also reiterated his prior condemnation of the Hamas attack, calling it a "major setback for any hope of peace and reconciliation in the region – and justice for the Palestinian people."
Sanders is among the most prominent Jewish politicians in America, and during his presidential campaigns in 2016 and 2020, he was notably far more critical of Israel than most Democrats.
His comments are largely in line with those of progressive "Squad" members in the House, who have called for a cease-fire in the wake of the Hamas attack.
Some of those lawmakers have also used the word "apartheid" to describe Israeli's occupation of the West Bank and blockade of Gaza, a term that's used by numerous international human rights groups but is largely eschewed by American politicians.
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I know the rawness of such a vicious terrorist attack will cloud judgment and leave the Israelis furious and wanting blood. For any American who fails to understand this, imagine if 9/11 had been caused by a group of people living in a cordoned off part of New Mexico. We would have carpet bombed the ever loving fuck out of it and killed the majority of the people there. The only reason we didn’t have a swift full force military response after 9/11 is because we had to get assets to the region which took time.
I’ve watched these videos of Israel dropping buildings left and right. I certainly hope these are confirmed terrorist targets but there’s just a whole lot of them and I suspect many of them have civilians inside. I know we are currently in the ‘Israel can do no wrong and we stand by them’ phase but where is the line drawn? Does this terrorist attack justify genocide? Im not inclined to believe so. But I also know after 9/11 I wouldn’t have given a shit if we did genocide an entire group if they were responsible. I would have been wrong, but my point is we lived through that seething rage ourselves and it took us years to collectively calm ourselves.
I don’t know what the answer is. Obviously they have to respond. But what’s the line you draw? It would not surprise me if in a few months the opinions of the global public once again shift back to horror and condemnation of Israel as the reality of this response is made public.
You know the US does have groups of people cordoned off in New Mexico? We have similar situations all over the US. They're called Indian Reservations and we did regularly massacre the people that lived there (Wounded Knee being the most famous example).
But at least by 1924 we gave Native Americans citizenship and therefore the right of free movement. It only took about 150 years but they at least got basic rights eventually, even if the discrimination and violence continues.
Israel can't even meet the standards of decency that America, a continuously not-decent country figured out for itself before Israel even existed.
I certainly hope these are confirmed terrorist targets but there’s just a whole lot of them and I suspect many of them have civilians inside.
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Absolutely true. The discussion was more about which resources and financial benefit would be best for the people in the room.
Maybe not in every one of the rooms. But the one that mattered, you better Fucking believe.
ITT: People who can't tell an explanation from a justification.
This is a horrible take.
I'm only allowing it to stay up because it'll give others an eye opener of what Israel supporters are really like.
I'm curious, what exactly gives a sense of OP being an Israel supporter? I read the post as good pondering about the reasoning for Israel's reactions and some good analogy for US readers through the 9/11 attacks and reactions for it.
It's pretty much required that a nation will either defend themselves or even counterattack heavily if someone attacks them or otherwise they won't stay independent very long (see Ukraine currently or Europe in 1930-1940s) and understanding that doesn't make someone automatically a supporter of either side. Now, it's a good thing to discuss about the size of Israel's reaction because completely destroying another country over a terrorist attack is not going to end up well either. This is something where the 9/11 comparison works well in my mind.
For a public statement by a U.S. Senator it is about as critical of Israel anyone could expect. I would wager far moreso in fact.
