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Baltimore police are scrambling to find an “extremely dangerous” man suspected of murdering 26-year-old tech CEO Pava LaPere, who was found dead in an apartment building on Monday.

Baltimore police are scrambling to find an “extremely dangerous” man suspected of murdering 26-year-old tech CEO Pava LaPere, who was found dead in an apartment building on Monday.

The suspect, 32-year-old Jason Dean Billingsley, should be considered armed and dangerous as he is wanted on charges of first-degree murder, assault and other offenses, acting Baltimore Police Commissioner Richard Worley said Tuesday.

LaPere, co-founder of the small startup EcoMap Technologies, was reported missing Monday morning, police said. Hours later, police were called to a downtown apartment building, where LaPere was discovered with signs of blunt-force trauma to her head, Worley said.

  • Bluetreefrog@lemm.ee
    61·
    1 year ago

    I'm addressing your main point, which was:

    The main goal of prisons is to protect society from criminals by removing them and deterring others from committing crimes through fear of punishment.

    My point is that deterrence has been proven to be a poor tool to reduce crime. Rehabilitation has been proven to be a relatively more successful tool to reduce recidivism.

    The Norwegian approach to prisoners is one piece of evidence in support of this. Here's some more (non-Norwegian) evidence:

    https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/fear-punishment-deterrence

    https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=7363&context=jclc

    Of course there are other differences between the US and Norway, but that doesn't change the validity of what I'm saying. If you want to argue that deterrence works, back it up with some evidence.

    • bobman@unilem.org
      17·
      1 year ago

      You didn't answer my question.

      Do you think these differences may impact the recidivism rate of prisoners in either nation? Yes or no.

      • Bluetreefrog@lemm.ee
        41·
        1 year ago

        Your question is vague and unanswerable as you haven't clarified what "these differences" are, so their impact on recidivism can't be determined.

        What I do know is that rehabilitation has been shown to reduce recidivism more than sanctions/supervision. Here's a meta-analysis for you. It looks like at least some of this data is from the US.

        "Supervision and sanctions, at best, show modest mean reductions in recidivism and, in some instances, have the opposite effect and increase re-offense rates. The mean recidivism effects found in studies of rehabilitation treatment, by comparison, are consistently positive and relatively large."

        https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mark-Lipsey/publication/228187332_The_Effectiveness_of_Correctional_Rehabilitation_A_Review_of_Systematic_Reviews/links/0deec518c2b2abd5fc000000/The-Effectiveness-of-Correctional-Rehabilitation-A-Review-of-Systematic-Reviews.pdf

        What evidence do you have that deterrence and supervision are more effective at reducing crime than rehabilitation?

        • bobman@unilem.org
          16·
          1 year ago

          Lol, okay. I have my answer.

          You know there are other factors that influence the recidivism rate for both countries, but you're ashamed to admit it because you know it detracts from your point.

          Glad we can clear that up. Have a nice day.

          • Bluetreefrog@lemm.ee
            41·
            1 year ago

            You know there are other factors that influence the recidivism rate for both countries, but you’re ashamed to admit it because you know it detracts from your point.

            You are ascribing a position to me that I don't have.

            1. Confounding factors exist in all studies. They don't invalidate the results, but you have to control for them. All well designed studies do this. Why on earth would I think that they don't exist?
            2. You just won't clarify what factors you want to talk about. Be specific and let's see what research there is on it. Pointing to undefined factors and saying '…but other stuff!' isn't an argument in favor of your point, which was that "The main goal of prisons is to protect society from criminals by removing them and deterring others from committing crimes through fear of punishment."

            Nor have you provided any evidence for your point while I have provided links to several studies. Pony up some evidence for your argument or be prepared to learn and grow. Or remain stubbornly wedded to your incorrect opinion. Makes no difference to me.

            • bobman@unilem.org
              15·
              1 year ago

              You are ascribing a position to me that I don’t have.

              Then admit it? It's not that difficult.

              "Yes, there are other factors that influence each nation's recidivism rate." See how easy and unambiguous that was? But instead you tried to take the sly road of saying I "didn't mention what those differences are." I shouldn't need to. That isn't my point. Lol.

              Why on earth would I think that they don’t exist?

              Like I said, you know they exist but clearly want to avoid admitting it because it detracts from your point.

              You just won’t clarify what factors you want to talk about. Be specific and let’s see what research there is on it.

              I don't need to. Once we establish that the are other factors (finally), then I can ask you why you believe Norway's prison system significantly outweighs their impact on prisoner recidivism.

              See how simple and easy discussion can be when you're not afraid to say what you mean?

              • Bluetreefrog@lemm.ee
                41·
                1 year ago

                You're funny. Clearly you aren't interested in having a good faith debate about facts, but just to troll.

                I wonder who you work for? Russia maybe? Judging by your post history, you have some agenda here. Think I'll watch and see.

          • blazeknave@lemmy.world
            11·
            1 year ago

            Hahahahaha I don't bc that wouldn't make sense!

            Do you always validate the very statements from which you're trying to deflect by acting them out in real time?

            (E. G. you didn't acknowledge you were being like BS. And then, like BS, drew a false correlation to what I was saying and shifted the subject. Much like BS, the subject matter itself being the "opponent's" "tactics.")