Have seen a few posts popping up recently just straight up calling fo violence barely disguised as memes

Had thought Lemmy had chilled out a bit on that kinda thing for a while but seems to be coming back now

Anyone else noticing the same or just me?

  • inv3r510n@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Count me in the second category. I’ve got a mental list of people I’d love to see offed in similar fashion. I’d do it myself but I have to care for my mother.

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      16 days ago

      I can understand you emotions, even if I can’t directly relate (living in a country with universal healthcare). But I do think it’s a slippery slope. Those kind of “kill the oppressors” movements may hit the “right people” at first, but also have a tendency of going wildly out of control. (Khmer Rouge etc)

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        Yeah, don’t care. You have no idea what it’s like to live here and how many people are ready to take matters into their own hands. Our government and justice system are a sham. We’ve had decades to do things the right way and we’ve been blocked from all matters of doing things peacefully. Violence it is.

        These people killed my father and rendered my mother and I homeless for a short stint. I’ve had a lifetime of trauma dealing with these ghouls. I’d kill them myself if I didn’t have a responsibility to take care of my mom. I’ve wanted to do what the assassin did for the last 13 years. You let these companies deny your family healthcare and watch your loved ones rot and see if you want to take the high road. I and millions more are out for blood.

        This was the first shot of many to come. Fuck the elite.

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          16 days ago

          Just be careful you don’t get in the crossfire yourself once the people’s bloodlust takes over and who the elite is shifts. In some cases, wearing glasses was enough.

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            16 days ago

            I’m already visibly queer and have been physically assaulted most of my childhood for it and threatened as an adult too. I don’t give a shit anymore.

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        16 days ago

        Yeah, I mean, look what happened in the late 1700’s. A bunch of people in the new world did a kind of “kill the oppressors” movement, and then they had to start a whole new country with a new set of ideas - what a pain. Then people in France caught wind of it and decided to start the movement there, too! It was a whole mess for the bourgeoise of the time.

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          I mean those people in the new world also did a bit of genocide of the native people as a side project and the movement in France included a regime of terror where like 30000 people, including peasants and revolutionaries, were murdered by other revolutionaries. It was hardly just the burgeoisie that suffered. But sure, desperate times may call for desperate measures. It’s not something I’d particularly want to live through though and there’s no guarantee that what comes after will be better.

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            16 days ago

            Correct. Those people, who were doing all that anyway. I’m not saying they were good people, but their revolution had nothing to do with the indigenous genocide. I do know that a lot of people were hurt or killed from “being too apologetic to British forces.” I don’t personally know enough about the French revolution to know about the amount of innocent casualties, but 30,000 doesn’t surprise me.

            Things are bad over here, and they’re only getting worse. If I end up being one of the people killed during the - at this point - inevitable uprising, whether from fighting or from being mistaken as being too friendly with the corrupt elite, at least I could be happy that there would be a light at the end of the tunnel for those who do survive.

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        15 days ago

        Did you really blame a movement that basically existed for twenty years after relevance through US (and Chinese, interestingly enough) machinations and support, and was actually ousted by the communist Vietnamese, on a ‘kill the oppressors’ view?

        Jesus, capitalists will say and do everything to blame the consequences of their actions on everyone else.

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          16 days ago

          IMO. You have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re just parroting any anti-capitalist rhetoric and feeling superior about it. This is based on the fact that you enjoy calling and insinuating people are stupid

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            15 days ago

            Who supported the Khmer Rouge?

            Who ended up fighting and ending the genocide?

            Who denied a genocide happened until the 80’s, and continued funding the Khmer Rouge until the late 90’s?

            These are all simple questions with simple, factual answers. You just don’t like the picture the answers paint, and want to justify the intentional outcome of Kissinger’s designs and blame the outcome on the victims.

            It sickens me to see people like the person I was replying to and yourself try and blame the people who were genocided for their genocide and to blame it on a economic ideology that had very little to do with the outcome.

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              15 days ago

              Haha. You’re the one who mentioned said economic ideology. You are just stirring yourself up for the sake of being stirred up. So now I think you just see enemies wherever you go, and really, that is your personal problem.

              And if you’re feeling sickened, try some pepto

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                14 days ago

                Okay, troll.

                You have answered no questions, and made no statements that can be falsified.

                Just insulted and took no position that could be shown wrong.

                You’re just a troll, and a lazy one at that.

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                  14 days ago

                  Okay, troll.

                  You have answered no questions, and made no statements that can be falsified.

                  Just insulted and took no position that could be shown wrong.

                  You’re just a troll, and a lazy one at that.

                  Don’t believe that’s true

                  That is true

                  That is also true

                  That is not true. I haven’t sent any insults your way. Simply, I’m questioning the way you logic and how you talk to people, and that insults you. Not my problem

                  That is true because I have zero interest in sharing what my position is with you specifically

                  Meh… Could be. I think I’ve lost touch with what a troll is if you’re accusing me of being one multiple times

                  Not true, but I have zero interest in giving you my best effort

                  Looking at your comment history, you have a tendency to talk down to people and not talk to them. You either fail or simply refuse to actually talk to fellow humans in a respectful way, so no. I am not going to give you a statement that can be falsified because I’m pretty confident what the outcome will be, and I have things in my life that are way more important to me than how you feel about the state of people and your assumptions on how the world should work. I’m going to waste as little mental energy on you that I can. It’s pointless to have a legitimate dialogue with you because you and I are both stubborn enough to not have our views changed on matters like this in this way. Think whatever you want to think. That is your personal problem. Not mine.

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        15 days ago

        Real. I don’t think the average American can correctly identify the oligarch culprits in most cases, this is the exception.

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        16 days ago

        Don’t doubt it. I have skin in the game, it’s time these CEOs feel our wrath. They left my father to die a horrible death. I want revenge. There’s millions of me.

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          16 days ago

          Agreed, but to say you will murder and actually murdering are two separate things

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            16 days ago

            After my mother is no longer on this earth, don’t doubt me. I’ve had years of rage pent up in me over this. It’s justified. I’d only take out someone like the UHC CEO.

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                Good thing the UHC CEO was already taken out. Let them investigate me. Thought crimes don’t hold up in court and there’s no evidence of planning or ability to execute.

                Free speech doesn’t need self censorship out of fear. These ghouls need to know how much the population wants them dead.