It's always the ones you mostly suspect.
I'm seriously more surprised these days when i read something like: leonardo DiCaprio never raped anyone.
What I found interesting about Brand was how he turned on a dime a few years back. From argent leftie to all of a sudden rightwing conspiracy theorist attacking the media. It is always interesting how often people who work in the media seem to attack it. Trump did it. Savile did it. Rolf Harris even did it during his final Glastonbury performance when allegations started getting traction.
Who else have we seen suddenly behave like this? I can think of a few GB News presenters, a couple of youtubers.
I too would also be against the government if the government was preparing a case against me for several counts of rape.
Fuck Brand. Hope he fucking rots in prison.
From argent leftie to all of a sudden rightwing conspiracy theorist
That's because things are in a circle. Go too far left and you end up on the right… All the wacko-commies are essentially fascists.
What a stupid take
I found the wacko-commie!
Horseshoe theory is a farce mate.
Once upon a time I actually liked Russell Brand. Thought he was intelligent and quite in touch with the ways of the world despite his eccentric character. He truly lost the plot when covid came around, although it wasn't the first time he'd talked absolute shite.
In hindsight, it's not really a surprise that he'd be this kind of person.
I never liked him much, and that's not a "I knew he was out there raping", that I didn't know. But personality-wise he was basically an egocentric rockstar who thought he knew it all and everyone not agreeing with his views and sense of humour were just too stupid.
And turns out, he is behaving even more like a 80s rockstar than I thought.
Perfectly cast in Get Him to the Greek, but at the time I thought it was acting, not just rolling out of bed.
Yeah I always thought he was hilarious because he was doing a shtick but as it turns out, that's just him.
Yeah, it's also why his movie career (at least as a comic lead) started in 2008 and was dead by the middle of 2011. He's got no range and audiences were only willing to pay to see Russell Brand being "Russell Brand in a different outfit" so many times before he wore out his welcome.
Yeah, I know a lot of people thought he was a reasonably smart dude with some interesting insights. But when you think about it he’s always been very superficial. There’s not much depth to any of his takes. He’s just charismatic and speaks like he keeps a pocket thesaurus in his jacket.
When I was poor and I complained about inequality they said I was bitter. Now I’m rich and I complain about inequality they say I’m a hypocrite. I’m starting to think they just don’t want to talk about inequality. —Russell Brand
Still one of my favorite quotes, it’s unfortunate that I won’t really be able to use it any more.
Brand used to be a legit socialist back in the day. The longer he had money, the harder I think was for him to continue to understand the struggle of the common people. Either that or its audience capture like what happened to Dave Rueben.
The YouTube channel the Kavernacle has done some good coverage on his drift to the right.
He definitely didn't come up with that line, I'm sure you could find an attribution to something virtually identical said a century ago, and several times since.
I just watched a program about this, and he was a creep from the get go.
A guy vaguely understanding class struggles doesn't make him a socialist nor a good guy.I’m pretty sure he described himself as a socialist once upon a time. I’m not one to gate keep what people call themselves.
But yeah just because he’s a socialist that doesn’t make him a good person. Marx probably had an unclaimed child with his servant girl.
Hitler called himself a socialist too, that's a pretty low bar… 🤦♀️
All you've done so far is attempt to derail the conversation about Brand being a rapist…
I’m sorry that’s not my intention. Do you think it would be best if we delete this thread?
I was just working through how my perception of him had changed over the years. I don’t want to downplay his alleged crimes.
I appreciate that you didn't mean to, but making it about him and whatever good he supposedly did, in a conversation about the several women he raped (and however many more he "just" assaulted), is at best highly inappropriate (and at worst is a well known derailing tactic used by those looking to defend a rapist and/or discredit his victims). Deleting the thread probably won't do much, but learning from this for the future will.
Part of rape culture is the massively false idea that "nice guys" don't rape, ignoring the fact that many rapists and abusers are experts at manipulating everyone around them (rapists "infiltrating" leftist circles, especially feminist ones, to gain access to victims, as well as the language to disarm their defences, is sadly not at all unusual).
I would highly recommend watching the Dispatches episode that aired about this last night if you can. In several of his performances/appearances he basically admits to putting an act on to get people to ignore how shitty he really is (as well as graphic descriptions of what we now know were some of his assaults, which he used as part of his comedy routine).
So many people I used to watch on youtube lost their fucking minds in 2020.
He used to eloquently talk about more straightforward issues to do with class struggle. The problem is when he decides to take that approach to science but then found himself going against it, and doubling down.
It's basically how a lot of commentators get into a bizarre rabbit hole and come out with some wild ideas. It's a basic trap that many of them fall for.
But that said he's always had a reputation for being a "playboy", so this isn't really a surprise. Lots of dudes from back when he was on top have turned out to be really shitty.
He lost the plot well before Covid, it's just that it wasn't noticed outside the UK as it largely revolved around our election in 2015 when he was encouraging people not to vote, then when he realised at the last minute this would just lead to he Tories winning by default, backed labour at the eleventh hour, leaving a lot of his followers confused and aimless so the alt-right could swoop in and win them over.
I liked his old podcasts back when he was still on drugs but pretending he was clean.
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I see what you did there!
Another person I've never heard of
He's very famous in the UK. Hasnt really been on mainstream tv for a long time though
He's been pretty famous in the US too, just less so since he turned into a right wing wack job
I'm sure the sort of people who fall for his dog whistle conspiracy brain damage will take these allegations seriously. Oh wait, of course they won't.
Paywall
What an absolute asshole monster
That Times article should come with a trigger warning, it contains descriptions of the assaults.
Never did like that guy. He seemed like a creep from the start, and I didn't ever find him funny.
And in news that surprised absolutely no one…
I swear there's a dark triad for "free thinkers" like him.
He used to be good but like many they started doubling down on their beliefs during the pandemic and quite frankly they become mentally unwell.
Not surprised. Will blame it on the drugs and drink. Slap in the wrist, British tabs will have their fun, then it will all go back to normal.
Didn't he non-consensually post candid pics of Katy Perry without makeup? I thought he was an asshole ever since then. Not that she should've been ashamed, but it should've been her choice.
I don't know the non-consensual bit for sure, but that's how I recall it being presented at the time and why I've never liked him. I'd never heard of the fucker before that.
I hadn't heard that until now but if he did that without her permission that's a shitty thing to do to a partner. Whether you're a celebrity or not there's a certain expectation of privacy that needs to be established in intimate relationships.
You know we have a real problem in our society when these women haven't been able to come forward with these allegations until the press have contacted them.
If they fear coming forward after being assaulted by someone who is hardly discreet about being a sexual predator, what must it be like for the victims of more outwardly respectable public figures?
I've only seen six or seven "news" posts about this chode this morning. Step it up people. Let's get it up to a dozen or two. Please keep posting about smelly looking British man.
I've only seen six or seven "news" posts about this chode this morning. Step it up people. Let's get it up to a dozen or two. Please keep posting about smelly looking British man.
You’re commenting on an article that was posted 8 days ago dumbass.
Edit: lol you even commented in this post last week! Idiot.
What he did to Katy Perry is when he became dead to me. Now I hope he dies in jail.
