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    Oh hot damn I’m so relieved. I was pretty worried she’d go with Shapiro, and then have a solid argument against her based on his service in the Israeli military. After seeing multiple people on lemmy say “They shouldn’t choose Tim Walz… we want to keep him for our selves”, that seemed like a solid endorsement by his constituents. Then Bernie endorsed the guy, so I feel pretty damn good about this selection if it proves to be true.

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      As a Minnesotan, I’m saddened for our potential loss. But as an American, I’m happy that the rest of the country will get to benefit from him.

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        Same, but I have a feeling Peggy Flanagan will do well in his stead. She was part of the groups that used to coach others at the Wellstone Political training camps that Tim Walz went to before he started running.

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        I’m just hoping Kamala and him are able to give America the Minnesota treatment. We won’t need these state reforms if they happen on the federal level instead.

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      then have a solid argument against her based on his service in the Israeli military.

      That’s an argument against for some and an argument in favor for others. It’s about attracting independents and they are split on that issue.

      On the other hand, Shapiro would probably not have done well among the large muslim minority in Michigan.

      Overall, I think Walz seems like the best pick. I just hope he doesn’t turn out to be another Tim Kaine.

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        Nope, but serving in the IDF, and having some vocal opinions on the campus protests in favor of Palestine is just the thing Harris doesn’t need to be saddled with.

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              Pennsylvania Governor and potential Democratic vice presidential nominee Josh Shapiro on Friday sought to distance himself from a recently uncovered op-ed he wrote in college, in which he identified as a former volunteer in the IDF and argued that the Palestinians are too “battle-minded” to pursue peace with Israel.

              “While he was in high school, Josh Shapiro was required to do a service project, which he and several classmates completed through a program that took them to a kibbutz in Israel where he worked on a farm and at a fishery,” Shapiro’s spokesperson Manuel Bonder told The Times of Israel.

              “The program also included volunteering on service projects on an Israeli army base. At no time was he engaged in any military activities,” Bonder added in a statement responding to an inquiry regarding the nature of his volunteer work.

              Sounds like he was trying to talk himself up in the article he wrote right out of high school. Definitely seems he worked on an IDF base but probably not for the IDF.

              Either way, probably good he wasn’t the pick. The opposition wouldn’t be concerned with such nuances.

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                Yeah, the facts and his actual current opinions matter much less than optics. Still, he has further vulnerabilities too besides Israel so I’m very positively surprised by the Walz pick. Dems seem to be on the ball and have their finger on the pulse of America for once.

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          Walz is a low risk, medium reward pick. Shapiro is reverse. Can’t win the Presidency without Pennsylvania. I think the jabber that the far left came up with regarding Shapiro is shameful and embarrassing, but the choice is made and it’s time to move forward.

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            Wouldn’t the opposite of a low risk, medium reward pick a high risk, medium reward pick?

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              Shapiro was high risk and high reward. Now that the decision has been made, I hope you can cheer for the Philly ward ladies to deliver Pennsylvania.

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            I don’t think Shapiro guarantees PA. His approval is good, but it’s not crazy high like Beshear. And his vulnerabilities make him too risky of a pick, you don’t want to halt the positive momentum and alienate the young voters you have finally gotten energised.

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              Not that it matters, but the political tactics in Pennsylvania are a bit different. Shapiro’s popularity in rural communities would be quite beneficial.

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            I think you’ll be surprised by the number of surprise states going blue for this election. A lot has happened since 2020 on Trump’s side, and none of it has been good.

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            Yeah, but you celebrate the genocide. I know you post a lot so the arguments between us from months ago will be far back in the history, but there is nothing surprising about someone who justifies genocide siding with the candidate who served in the military that is currently committing genocide.

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              I’m not siding with any candidate. I don’t care who the democratic VP candidate is. Try again.

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                I don’t need to try again, but when you post seemingly innocuous opinions that tangentially touch on your support for genocide without referencing it, and I see it, I will post so that others will know that they are interacting with something posted by someone that supports genocide.

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        His position on almost everything isn’t that much different from corpo Dems. I was reading through one of those “know your politician” sites and I was fuming saying “wtf does he even bring to the table other than mayyyyybe PA and keeping wall st happy?”

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          I doubt it. There isn’t a politician in the country that candons flag burning and defacing public property.

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            Why do you guys keep assuming it’s some generic nothingburger rather than looking up the actual complaints?

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              Lots of people died under that flag, friend. You can call it a nothingberger but that hardly makes it so for a majority of the US

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                What? You don’t seem to even understand the issue. You refuse to look up the actual criticisms of Shapiro, assuming it’s an issue about flag burning, which you say no one would object to. It’s not about flag burning.

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                  I don’t rightly care. You’re the the one who seems kerpluxed. No politican is going to go along with the demonstrations. Actually, the US has shown restraint compared to the Europeans. A place like Philadelphia or Boston does not take bullshit demonstrations and that’s before the cops show up. I am happy that you have found a social cause to support. Shapiro is not going to be the nominee, so again, I really don’t care at this point.

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                    I don’t want you to care, I want you to fucking learn something before shooting your mouth off.

                    But this response is way worse than the ignorance above. How ready you are to cheer the boot. Scratch a centrist and a fascist bleeds.

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                If people are dying under the flag then we should destroy the flag to prevent others from dying under it.