Ukraine should have reestablished their nuclear weapons program and received supplies/support from allies after Crimea and again after Putin’s 3 day war was repelled and the nonproliferation treaty under the Budapest Memorandum was violated by Russia. The only language dictators care to understand is violence or the threat of violence.
Ukraine should have reestablished their nuclear weapons program and received supplies/support from allies after Crimea
The country was ten types of broke before the war even started. You want them to invest billions they didn’t have in a race to enrich uranium they couldn’t access so they could kick off a nuclear war with a country directly on their border?
If the only point you’d contest is the after Crimea part Ukraine being too poor to do it I’d suggest allies that also signed the memorandum should be helping provide supplies and technical support. I don’t believe any further Russian invasion would have happened under a nuclear armed Ukraine preventing the current conventional war. I don’t think Ukraine owning nuclear weapons would result in a nuclear war because it’s the same deterrent preventing Russia from using them themselves today.
Ukraine wasn’t trying to join NATO before Russia invaded neighbors including Crimea in Ukraine, and they had signed the non proliferation treaty, including Russia, to not develop nuclear weapons as long as Russia did not invade their borders. If preventing a nuclear armed or NATO allied Ukraine was their goal and Russia invaded Ukraine twice in direct opposition to that started goal that means their stated causa belli was a lie.
Ukraine’s leaders in recent years have made enthusiastic pleas about their desire to bring the country into NATO — especially current President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who was elected into office in 2019.
His election came on the heels of a move by Ukraine’s parliament to enshrine the goals of joining NATO and the European Union into the country’s constitution in September 2018.
Three years later, Zelenskyy sat in the Oval Office, meeting with President Joe Biden during an official visit to the U.S., and he told reporters he planned to press his American counterpart on the question of Ukraine’s “chances to join NATO and the timeframe." No timeline or further commitment came out of the meeting.
But while Ukraine’s leadership has directly pressed for membership since at least 2008, it hasn’t always been popular in the country.
Ukraine wasn’t trying to join NATO before Russia invaded neighbors including Crimea in Ukraine,
2018 and 2019 were well after Crimea, and the popular opinion in Ukraine shifted towards NATO in 2008 because of the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008, one of said neighbors.
It is proliferation because they currently have none and would now have more. Even if not, which nuclear bombs are we “using” right now?
I’m sure sending nukes to a war-torn country will do nothing to resolve the conflict or stabilize the region. Israel is constantly in conflict despite having nukes and other WMD goodies. How could this possibly help? Do you imagine they’d use them? MAD only ensures that nukes don’t get launched. Putins “operation” in Ukraine could continue completely unimpeded
Ukraine should have reestablished their nuclear weapons program and received supplies/support from allies after Crimea and again after Putin’s 3 day war was repelled and the nonproliferation treaty under the Budapest Memorandum was violated by Russia. The only language dictators care to understand is violence or the threat of violence.
The country was ten types of broke before the war even started. You want them to invest billions they didn’t have in a race to enrich uranium they couldn’t access so they could kick off a nuclear war with a country directly on their border?
Fuck it, give em one of our old ones. I’m sure we’ve got some nukes from the 80s laying around.
We’ll just have to track them down, first…
Good news! They’re already in Russia
I’m not even joking, give them a hundred nukes we don’t use. It’ll be a lot cheaper for everyone.
Except Russia if they don’t run away. And the world, but, honestly, this place has seen better days.
If the only point you’d contest is the after Crimea part Ukraine being too poor to do it I’d suggest allies that also signed the memorandum should be helping provide supplies and technical support. I don’t believe any further Russian invasion would have happened under a nuclear armed Ukraine preventing the current conventional war. I don’t think Ukraine owning nuclear weapons would result in a nuclear war because it’s the same deterrent preventing Russia from using them themselves today.
Wasn’t a major Russian Causa Belli the prospect of a nuclear armed NATO on it’s border?
Ukraine wasn’t trying to join NATO before Russia invaded neighbors including Crimea in Ukraine, and they had signed the non proliferation treaty, including Russia, to not develop nuclear weapons as long as Russia did not invade their borders. If preventing a nuclear armed or NATO allied Ukraine was their goal and Russia invaded Ukraine twice in direct opposition to that started goal that means their stated causa belli was a lie.
In the years before war, Ukraine’s leaders made enthusiastic pleas about their desire to bring the country into NATO, and the prospect rose in popularity in public polls
2018 and 2019 were well after Crimea, and the popular opinion in Ukraine shifted towards NATO in 2008 because of the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008, one of said neighbors.
Why stop there? Lets argue about the Winter War.
Because the Soviet Union who is not Russia fought the winter war, and Russia’s government signed the Budapest memorandum in 1994.
Nuclear proliferation is certainly not the answer
It’s not proliferation if we give them ones we aren’t using.
It’s reliferation, they used to have some.
It is proliferation because they currently have none and would now have more. Even if not, which nuclear bombs are we “using” right now?
I’m sure sending nukes to a war-torn country will do nothing to resolve the conflict or stabilize the region. Israel is constantly in conflict despite having nukes and other WMD goodies. How could this possibly help? Do you imagine they’d use them? MAD only ensures that nukes don’t get launched. Putins “operation” in Ukraine could continue completely unimpeded