• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Man, I remember reading lists that were pretty much the same about why people would obviously vote for Clinton in 2016.

    Don’t remember how that went, can you remind me?

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      9 months ago

      There’s one key difference in those lists now, if you would like a hint: it’s the straight-up treason.

      No matter how divided on any other issue, that’s the one that should unite us all.

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        9 months ago

        You woulda thought that vaccination during a pandemic would have united us all. Or Earth is round. Or Putin is bad.

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        9 months ago

        Should unite us but somehow about half of America insists they are going to vote for trump.

        So it does matter who runs against trump because, believe it or not, people disagree with us. And I would rather not see another trump term.

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        9 months ago

        It’s straight up supporting the massacre and ethnic cleansing of tens of thousands of people, as well as the destruction of hundreds of thousands of homes, tons of schools and hospitals, the BELGIAN office in Gaza, the mosques.

        And Biden supports every bit of that, he says he doesn’t, but actions speak louder than words

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          9 months ago

          What do you think Trump is going to do?

          He’s either going to order us to drop bombs ourselves to wipe out Gaza or demand Israel given everything we’ve got so Israel can drop all the bombs.

          All while pulling out of NATO and embracing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, before assisting in the push to Finland, Estonia, and Latvia, with Belarus droppong the charade and publicly passing sovereignty back over to Russia.

          That doesn’t even mention what’s going to happen here. The RNC is publicly saying they’re going to end democracy to a hall full of cheers. The “day one dictator” is going to try and fucking do it. And his sycophants will allow him. Followed by mass deportationss and concentration camps of “illegals”. Then declarations of naturalization of certain people to have been illegal (DREAMERs beware) to be in the next wave. Simultaneously our trans friends will be picked up. Every gay man and women will have to tread carefully or be declared a pedophile and rounded up too, and it’ll only be a matter of time before they round up every outed gay person that doesn’t provide them some leverage over some group.

          I dont think Biden is great by any standard. And his continued support of Israel’s actions in Gaza are no different than any president since Israel was forcefully taken away and given to them post WW2.

          Let’s remember what’s at stake here. We either defeat Trump and fight for Biden to implement incremental progress and push away from Israel. Or Trump wins and the USA becomes a fascist Russian puppet state and the world is going to descend into another war.

          Progress is incremental until there’s a wave of change. History has repeatedly shown this. And we’ve seen what that wave of change is when the fascist wave comes. And the world vowed to never let it happen again. Let’s not forget what our grandfather’s and great grandfather’s fought for.

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            The US has forgotten NEVER AGAIN and replaced that with sending weapons to ensure it happens again.

            I’m not saying for vote for trump.

            Neither side wants me so neither side can get me.

            I will vote locally and state but I won’t help either person who supports the massacre of innocents in any way.

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            9 months ago

            I am allowed to bitch about Biden without supporting trump.

            I don’t understand why that is a hard concept for people.

            Neither side wants my vote, so I am doing what everyone wants

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      9 months ago

      Remember “Obama’s drone strikes” & how that was going to cost him he election?

      Pepperidge Farms remembers.