• Remmock@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    In any hospital an MRI machine is used all day. Any hospital comes as close to using every piece of equipment constantly as often as it can, even overbooking patients before being willing to invest in an additional piece of equipment.

    Do you believe that MRI sat idle for months so they could stockpile weapons? Did the hospital as a whole agree to store weapons instead of accepting the sick?

    Would you casually allow any local terrorist cell to stockpile weapons in a room at your place of work without saying something? Even if you would, would every single coworker do the same?

    Almost any specialty in a hospital may have a reason to recommend an MRI, so it’s not like this would be a closely guarded secret. The entire hospital would know fairly quickly that the room is unavailable. What any practical person knows that any conspiracy theorist overlooks is how hard it is to keep a lid on a secret, especially as you keep adding people. Hell, they couldn’t even keep a lid on GTA VI.

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      Have you ever heard of the Manhattan Project? Where they built 2 small cities and an incoming President was kept in the dark on the project for years…

      I’m not saying it happened or not. I’m just saying it is a possibility it happened. I have 0 clue either way

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        It seems unlikely to me that Hamas would have deployed Manhattan-Project-level counterintelligence work so that they could hide some guns in an MRI machine’s room, instead of maybe just stashing them in a broom closet down the hall.

        It’s possible, sure. But this is my opinion on its likelihood and that sounds reasonably grounded to me.

        An alternative explanation that seems more likely to me is that the IDF really wanted to be able to publish some photos that indicated that Hamas was using hospitals as armories, and so they propped some guns up next to a highly recognizable piece of medical equipment found only in hospitals so they could get those photos. Maybe the guns were taken from the broom closet down the hall, maybe they weren’t, I don’t have any basis for an opinion on that part. The rest seems most plausible to me in the meantime.

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      You’re presuming that the weapons got stashed there while it was still in use, which has not been established. The weapons were in a bag behind the MRI machine, not in it. Here’s the video.

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        Yeah, you really got me there. There’s no way things would have been able to react to the MRI machine because they’re in a goddamn bag.

        If you don’t understand science that’s fine, but please show your way out of the conversation and let people who want to have an actual discussion participate.

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          Care to explain to me why the metal objects they are rifling through the bag aren’t flying into the MRI machine then?

          Turning off the Magnet
          Is the magnetic field turned on and off between patients?
          Resistive electromagnet scanners, in theory, can be turned on and off. However, it may take 30-60 minutes for their magnetic fields to stabilize after being off and hence they are generally left continuously on during daily operations. To save electricity, they are usually turned off or have their power levels reduced after hours.
          https://mriquestions.com/is-field-ever-turned-off.html

          If you don’t understand how MRI machines work that’s fine, but please show your way out of the conversation and let people who want to have an actual discussion participate.

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            Um. You proved me right and have therefore suggested for me that this was staged. Congratulations?

            The MRI magnet is ALWAYS on. This means no person is allowed to enter the MRI scan room without clearance and permission from a certified technologist. Metallic objects (such as fingernail clippers, pocket knives and even pens) can lead to serious bodily injury if brought within the magnetic field.

            Source: https://medicine.uiowa.edu/mri/mri-safety-basics

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              Lol, you linked a different hospital’s rules regarding MRIs, which are that way because under normal circumstances it never shuts off. I linked you a page that shows that there are three types of MRIs, and one of them can in fact turn off its magnetic field. Now, I haven’t established if that’s the kind that they use in Al-Shifa, but it’s quite possible. At very least the fact that it’s off means there is no moving magnetic field and depending on where the magnet is, it may be totally possible to stash a bag there without negative consequences. Different machines use different magnetic strengths. The fact that the metal items in the bag aren’t being affected makes your theory not very compelling and seems to be proof that this is possible.