• @wafflez@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Stop spreading misinformation. It’s not against HIPPA for medical providers to disclose the barebones amount of to collections if they signed the notice of privavy practices

    • Zuberi 👀
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      06 months ago

      disclose the barebones amount

      How does one itemize a value they cannot legally view?

      • @wafflez@lemmy.world
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        16 months ago

        I already told you. This is misinformation, they request it from the hospital and it takes a few days to a week.

        • Zuberi 👀
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          06 months ago

          Be very specific, what exactly is your claim here?

          That they send it to collections w/o any true info about what’s in the debt?

          Because you just explained exactly why you don’t have to pay that shit.

          • @wafflez@lemmy.world
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            06 months ago

            They already have the barebones amount of information that the hospital provided due to the privacy application you signed. If you request an itemized list to the agency, the hospital is able to provide it. You’re trying to find a gotcha and doubling down on your misinformation which ultimately is your potential future problem and not mine. I’m just trying to protect others from your ignorance.

          • @wafflez@lemmy.world
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            06 months ago

            They already have the barebones amount of information that the hospital provided due to the privacy application you signed. If you request an itemized list to the agency, the hospital is able to provide it. You’re trying to find a gotcha and doubling down on your misinformation which ultimately is your potential future problem and not mine. I’m just trying to protect others from your ignorance.

            • Zuberi 👀
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              06 months ago

              You’re welcome to try to continue you lie you were fed if you must.

              You have any actual experience w/ this?

              • @wafflez@lemmy.world
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                06 months ago

                Yes. I have disputed medical debt and known others who have done it successfully. Literally requesting an itemized list is often followed up with an itemized list. Sometimes they dont care enough to request it especially since sometimes there can be a fee. But either way it’s insanely weak advice and perpetuates misinformation. There are much better avenues to dispute the debt.

                • Zuberi 👀
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                  06 months ago

                  Just because you tried some normie method and I tried a much easier one doesn’t make you somehow better than me.

                  Violation of my HIPPA rights is (and will ALWAYS be) an automatic dismissal (>150k in our case ;) ).

                  Genuinely, stfu if you don’t know how to play this lil’ capitalism game to the best of your ability.

                  You can bootlick for as long as you feel comfortable doing so.

        • HACKthePRISONS
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          -16 months ago

          that read is though it’s anecdotal. I was hoping that you could cite a case.

          • @wafflez@lemmy.world
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            16 months ago

            I’m not a lawyer. The source I provided is generally the best standard you’ll find for this. Collection agencies know their limits because of the law and know not to challenge do not contact clauses. I’m not going to go research the exact cases though.

            It’s not generally even needed to get a lawyer at this point. You need a laywer if they breach your dispute claim or reach out to you after you give them a direct “do not contact me.” These have been held up in court but also your dispute claim can fall. It’s just super expensive for them to actually pursue it so they rarely do. I’m just providing the easiest way to avoid paying debt, not a guareneed way like the other person is giving false promises about.

            If you’re interested in law there have been cases about contractual changes where you cross out hospital agreements and change them you can look into. Generally changing your contract is honored if its a minor change and hospital staff agrees but if its a big change it wont be held up.