• @yemmly@lemmy.world
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    -1213 days ago

    My point was just that given a large enough population you can always find idiots who do outrageous things for attention. I think denying them attention makes it less likely that others follow in their footsteps.

    • Flying Squid
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      1113 days ago

      Denying them attention means that others don’t know that it’s wrong.

      There’s a reason why we tell people what’s right and what’s wrong.

      • @yemmly@lemmy.world
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        -413 days ago

        The real wrong that people need to be educated on is that respect for the human rights of others is not a “political opinion”.

        Anyone who doesn’t know that urinating on others’ property (without their consent) is wrong has something so severely broken in them that public shaming can’t fix it.

        • Flying Squid
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          613 days ago

          And yet many, many people don’t seem to understand that being bigoted against queer people is wrong.

          How do you propose we show that to people without pointing out the wrong that’s being done?

          • @yemmly@lemmy.world
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            113 days ago

            Let’s make sure everyone knows the stories of queer heroes, like Alan Turing, a titan of computer science, information theory, and cryptography whose efforts helped save the world at one of its darkest hours.

            …who was then so severely persecuted because he was gay that he wound up in an early grave.

            • Flying Squid
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              313 days ago

              How do you do that properly without talking about the ways in which he was persecuted, the thing you think should not be given attention to?

              • @yemmly@lemmy.world
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                -113 days ago

                I absolutely think everyone should know that Turing was betrayed by scoundrels which led to his arrest for the crime of being himself (it was illegal to be gay at that time in the UK). After that he couldn’t get a job, despite being the best ever in the world at his job. After that, he fell into hopelessness and took his own life.

                • Flying Squid
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                  413 days ago

                  That was far from the only way Turing was persecuted.

                  It sounds like you need to learn more about Turing. Either that or you think that was the only type of persecution that mattered. I hope the former.

                  • @yemmly@lemmy.world
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                    213 days ago

                    I didn’t mean to imply that those were the only acts of persecution committed against him.

                    And about the flag pisser: What he did was wrong. It was a hate crime. It is appropriate that he is punished for it. Peoples’ outrage about it is justified.