Too late, I watched it all. It would have been funny if it hadn’t been so sad.

You know, as much as one has to keep Machiavellian machinations and Realpolitik in mind… Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Biden did not do well. They report about it in a way that gives them clicks. There is no plan.

I do have an issue with the tankie dumbfucks who will STILL talk about “Genocide Joe” when we have video evidence of trump saying he outright wants the Palestinians eradicated and thinks Biden is too soft on them.

Oh, I get that one. Might lose me some brownie points with some of my fellow communists, but I think they overestimate their own influence and overly moralise the questions when they talk about Biden. Personally, I think the important thing is moving towards communism by making organisation of the working people possible, and that will be forced much more into the underground under another Trump presidency. To me, the one question on my mind is: How can this situation be further used for empowering an eventual revolutionary change, ultimately, it is about power.

As a bonus point: I do think Biden winning might bait the fascists into doing something stupid, like armed revolts which they are certainly not ready for yet, potentially weakening them further, and moving some moderates into openly antifascist organisations.

Well, beauty is a social construct as well, and yet plastic surgery is a massive industry, with shifting trends as well.

Social construct does not mean entirely abstract, but in dialectic exchange with material reality.

Fucking cognitohazards in this subreddit, and I lost the game too, great.

You are correct - this will be about the undecided and independent vote. And yes, signalling in the coming days will be important, focus on Trumps lies and obvious deflections.

That doesn’t change that Biden did not do a good job, and that that will make things a lot harder. It’s not the commies and hard lefties, the “useful idiots” in your eyes, that dominate the discourse, it will be pundits and just your everyday Joes talking to each other. And they have not been given good material from the Democrats with Biden, it’s going to be hard work to counter what is an intuitively understood truth with the average watcher: Biden did not do well and left so much on the table, where he could have done a better job attacking Trump on his obvious deflections and lies. The hope is, that maybe the common undecided voter has become tired of Trump’s shtick, countering the surface-level feelings.

That was ironically the best summary of the damn debate. Two out of touch liches talking about golf.

I wonder how the liberals feel now, that pushed Biden on electability and rejected any more radical options because they were too scary and conflicting with the party line.

He got a little more energetic, but not enough, really.

“We had H2O”, what is he even talking about? It’s scary to realise his cult just accepts anything he says.

And then a confused attack on Trump on climate change that was so softball and not to the point… oof… Biden, why?

Of course, Trump completely deflects on the climate change question.

Well, Biden’s Charlottesville attack on Trump wasn’t too bad all things considered, Trump did deflect of course, but maybe it invigorated the old fart.

If he gets angry enough to get some more strength into his voice and inflection, who knows, he might not crash completely. It seems a little different than in the beginning at least right now.

That would be an interesting outcome. I doubt it, but if it were to happen, I don’t think it would have been planned, just a panic reaction.

It just goes to show, that rhetoric and charisma are important. They aren’t the only important thing, but Jesus, if you have good points to make but can’t make them properly, you will be bulldozed.

Why is there no fact-checking on air? Why even have moderation if they do nothing to challenge the two?

Oh my lord, I will never, ever understand how and why Democrats argued that Biden was “the more electable” candidate. This is painful.

Oh, this brought me back to when I was in a psychiatric clinic as a teenager and I reacted like that to something, and this one girl with borderline was just about ready to kill me…

We must imagine Sisyphus in therapy

Oh, wow, another book for the reading list :O

Am surprised that I genuinely hadn’t heard of him, just highlights the point the article is making.

Very similar story here, when I finally had glasses it was so weird to realise that stars aren’t blurry, and it’s in fact normal to be able to see individual leaves on trees, but I never noticed I needed them for many years, because everyday life wasn’t affected for me.