Sales of previously occupied U.S. homes in September fell for the fourth month in a row, grinding to their slowest pace in more than a decade as prospective homebuyers grapple with surging mortgage rates and a near historic-low level of properties on the market.
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It's great for some sellers, but not most. Everyone with a mortgage is locked in to sub 3%. That's lower than inflation. Why would anyone give up that loan? You're better off keeping the house and renting it out than giving up that loan.
In Canada you have to refinance every 5 years (rarely you may be able to do 10)
Coming up pretty quick where there probably won't be any sub 5% plans anywhere.
That's insane. So if folks buy something they can afford, then the market goes to shit, inflation takes off, and the government uses interest rates to reign it in; it then victimizes all those folks who bought homes they could absolutely afford, but now can't because the rates of their loans changed underneath them!?
That's barbaric.
Yeah, we have something called a stress test where even if the rates are 3% you can only get a mortgage if they feel you can still be okay with the payments if the rates go up, but we passed that point awhile ago already. So even if people passed the stress test they may not be able to afford what the rates are now.
That's insane. We have fixed rates that are exactly that, fixed. And mine, and all of the US that's owned for more than 2 years, is fixed at around 3%. That's a big part of why these particular metrics are what they are; the number of houses being sold. Price aside, it makes no sense to get rid of that loan.
Same in UK. Going from <2% to >5‰ has been a kick in the teeth.
However you buy knowing this is the case and you should financially plan for an eventuality of double or triple rates, which I did.
It might sound barbaric, but when people were getting a dropped rate on a new deal every 2 years for over a decade, I didn't hear any complaints. The scale rises and falls on both sides!
We have those too. You can get a fixed rate or flexible rate. The flexible is always a little lower than a fixed due to the nature of it. Everyone in the US sensed rates were near the bottom though, and refinanced to fixed 3% two years ago.
Ah interesting. You only ever hear about whole term fixed rates here, with regards to US.
It is very interesting, I had no idea fixed rates are only a thing here. I couldn't afford my current house if rates went up. That's why a lot of first time buyers become house poor. They are willing to stretch their finances to get an expensive first house, knowing that their income will increase over time decreasing the cost of their house comparitively. It's also why the existing housing market supply is essentially gone in the US. Everyone with a fixed 3% will never sell. It's as close to a free loan as it gets. Inflation is already shrinking what I owe in comparison to present day value by more than my interest rate. There is zero reason to sell my house, even if I couldn't afford it for some reason, it makes more sense to rent it out to keep this loan.
I got a Habitat for Humanity mortgage. 0% interest. Not leaving until I'm in a casket.
Where I am prices went up along with the interest rate and people kept buying. Buyers were bidding on houses before they even looked at them. Houses would be pending the same day they went up for sale. It was crazy.
Bruv, a decent house where I’m from is fucking $1.5M.
Housing is different place to place. Where I am it's considerably less and prices have come down a little. Houses are on the market longer near me too.
Typically when sales decrease prices go with them to encourage buyers.
Housing prices have been wack-a-doodle these last few years where I live. Nothing makes sense when it comes to housing prices right now it seems
Housing prices don't crash. Not really. People don't want to take the loss. The nominal price may stay flat and the real price may go down as a result… That feels more likely
