Question came about from watching this random standup yt video
The Government Is Lying to You - Ron Funches
Maybe not the best news source but I don't have all day: https://theintercept.com/2015/08/03/17-years-reporter-exposed-echelon-finds-vindication-snowden-archive/
When I was a budding IT guy, the conspiracy theory that the five eyes nations were spying on each other and giving the intelligence to each other to get around rules prohibiting domestic spying was largely regarded as a paranoid conspiracy theory.
Network engineers that worked in internet backbone connectivity said there was no other really viable explanation for some of the patterns that were seeing and I believed these people after looking over some things they posted.
Well, eventually they were vindicted and the truth came out.
Ever since then, I've been a little slower to dismiss conspiracy theories.
Do I think JFK jr is coming back to lead The Storm, reinstate Trump, and finally put an end up the adrenochrome illuminati? No. But I'm a little more open minded than I used to be.
I think it’s important to filter between plausible but unlikely and implausible. Are a group of spy agencies sharing information to bypass prohibition on spying on their citizens? Possibly yes.
Could a famous person who died 30 years ago come back to reinstate the extremely controversial former president of the United States because he clearly had to have won? No. Faking your death is really hard when everything goes perfectly. He doesn’t have the authority to do Jack shit. He wasn’t even a president. MLK isn’t going to come back to life and reinstate Barack Obama either.
What about the moon landing being fake? No. The Soviets had every reason to dispute the apollo 11 landing and all of the technology to verify or refute it, they verified it. Additionally mirrors were left and amateur astronomers can verify for themselves. Also astronomers aren’t spies, nasa is bad at keeping secrets.
This is pretty much how I think about things.
Yeah it’s how you stay open minded imo. And as a rule when a conspiracy starts blaming the Jews I discount it. It’s one thing to say Netanyahu or Kissinger did a conspiracy, but Moe down the street had nothing to do with it. People and organizations conspire, races religions etc don’t
I believe that the United States government operated a scheme by which they secretly armed the Nicaraguan contras in exchange for cocaine, which the cia sold in the United States and used that money to fund Iran. All against the law and without congressional approval.
I believe that the American federal bureau of investigation kept tabs on, infiltrated, assassinated, and otherwise actively disrupted left wing causes for at least half of the latter half of the 20th century, and may continue to do so.
I believe the cia dosed a lot of people with lsd without their consent in attempts to control minds. All without informing any higher ups or democratically elected officials.
I believe the cia has actively worked to undermine and overthrow democratically elected left leaning governments around the world whenever that comes into conflict with the interests of American wealth holders.
Modern ones, I have some suspicions based on leaks from somewhat trusted sources, but it’s not like historical ones where there’s such clear evidence and often confessions, which is part of why American ones are so prevalent here, we do like documenting what our government does.
Agents of the US government purposefully destroyed Billy Holiday.
Also, during prohibition, the US government knowingly poisoned alcohol with the intent of harming people that drank illegally manufactured booze.
I thought the poisoned alcohol during prohition was proven as true.
Maybe not…
It isn't ambiguous that it happened. The question is what was the motivation. I'm saying they knew they were killing people and did it anyway.
Reread, thank you for the clarification!
Have a great day!
Just because conspiracies likely do happen on a regular basis doesn't mean that any popular conspiracy theory has found one.
Remember, the big conspiracies like Watergate or the NSA leaks where not uncovered by conspiracy theorists. They where not uncovered by cherry-picking factoids from public government statements and "doing ones own research" aka using Google. They were uncovered by whistleblowers speaking out and journalists double-checking and following up on information they were given.
As a side note — the poor boy with this scumbag father who constantly lies to him.
The 9/11 was an inside job stuff, but only the part where part of the US government knew that something was going to happen and let it happen. That gave them the opportunity to set up stuff like the Patriot Act and gave them a (wonky) reason to invade the middle east.
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CIA blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
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That Covid was made.
I dont really think its true, but the richest get richer with every catastrophe, people actually believe "everything just gets more expensive" (which is absolute bullshit and rich people just use it to make more profits). Also, genetically modifying some viruses should be totally possible today.
I don't buy it because scientists have been saying for more than a decade that the "wet market" culture in China was a "ticking time bomb" for something like COVID to appear.
Yes that too makes sense. If people stopped eating animals, damn… the reserve antibiotics we could save for like… actually emergencies
That's not the reasoning. The reasoning is that the "Wet Markets" involve a lot of live mammals being kept in close proximity, creating a breeding ground for really nasty viruses to make the interspecies jump to humans.
Yes, and to circumvent this naturally occuring germ breeding pool, in countries like Germany animals get pumped up with antibiotics, even the reserve ones, so that this doesnt happen here even though its just as bad.
Yeah, eeeeeverything fine here.
Antibiotics are irrelevant to COVID. It's a virus, not a bacteria.
True, is there anything animals get to stop spreading viruses? Never heard of that
Not keeping them in cramped filthy conditions like those that exist in Chinese meat markets. Particularly small mammals which are genetically similar enough to humans for a virus to jump species. There's a reason all the nastiest plagues have come from people trying to eat bats and monkeys.
That's tricky, because "conspiracy theory" implies a level of deception that makes falsifiability of anything difficult. Like, if somebody starts chatting me up on the street and I wonder if I'm going to get scammed or jumped, that's a theory about a conspiracy, but it's not a conspiracy theory because it only involves a few people and I still can be sure what's up and what's down.
Epstein being murdered gets called a conspiracy theory, but if a couple of guards, a warden and a single wealthy instigator were the only participants, and they were really sloppy covering it up, is that really so implausible?
I think you are overthinking it.
Could have been anything:
parents lying about santa, maybe
moon landing, nasa
Anything is good, hahahah
The Epstein thing was my answer to the spirit of the question, if that wasn't clear. I just added some analysis, since I don't believe actual conspiracy theories by definition, on epistemological grounds.
My own personal conspiracy theory is that Flat Earthers, Anti-vaxxers and all the other "Facebook boomer" conspiracies are just a strategy to discredit other "more real" conspiracies: if you believe that 9/11 was an inside job you're bundled with people that believe that Earth is a frisbee and smart people don't want that so they keep themselves from exploring anything else.
Also aliens fucked apes and that's how we got here.Yeah, It's like the theory that Gates put microchips in the vaccines. First, your phone already does the job. And second, the actual conspiracy going on is that billionaires funnel their money through charities they own, and then make donations to influence the media and scientific research in their favour.
Donations don't get taxed. So if you own the charity you're donating you get your own tax-free income
