• Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
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    I believe that degrading the army of one of the US greatest geopolitical world rivals at the cost of roughly 3% of the DoD budget is money well spent. In that there is no US blood is an added advantage. The Ukrainians are fighting this war for their own purpose, to reject tyrannical rule. That’s something that’s happened for a millennium, including the American revolution.

    The US didn’t impose this war, 100,000 Russians invading did. As France helped the US during the revolution, the US helps Ukraine.

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      I believe that degrading the army of one of the US greatest geopolitical world rivals at the cost of roughly 3% of the DoD budget is money well spent.

      I believe the 100.000s of dead ukrainians are more important than some vague US geopolitical goal.

      The Ukrainians are fighting this war for their own purpose, to reject tyrannical rule.

      The ukrainians are forcibly conscripted and banned from leaving their country. They do not want to fight.

      The US didn’t impose this war, 100,000 Russians invading did

      Yeah one day putler just woke up and felt like invading, that’s what happened.

      If you think this is such a good war, go volunteer.

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        The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want, as could Putin.

        Reality is the Russians invaded. They rejected world order.

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          The Ukrainians could stop this war anytime they want, as could Putin.

          The ukrainians are being forcibly conscripted and banned from leaving the country. They do not want to fight. The russians have sought peace negotiations several times, NATO-members like the United Kingdom, have come and stopped these negotiations.

          Reality is the Russians invaded. They rejected world order.

          Ah yes, one day evil putler woke up and decided to invade, that’s what happened. He rejected our Good Guys Rules Based Order because he’s just such an evil dude.

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            Geez…the Russians too are drafting folks. Conscription centers in Russia are firebombed. Your BS is kind of thick.

            The Russians have not sought peace negotiations.

            No, I think Putin is a murderer, comrade. I think he’s a wanted for war crimes. I think he was so stupid that he thought this would take three days.

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              Geez…the Russians too are drafting folks. Conscription centers in Russia are firebombed. Your BS is kind of thick.

              I never said they weren’t? Nice whataboutsm. You’re saying the ukrainians want to fight, I show you they don’t, you imply I’m a bot, and you fail to engage with the argument.

              The Russians have not sought peace negotiations.

              So that was a fucking lie
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              No, I think Putin is a murderer, comrade. I think he’s a wanted for war crimes. I think he was so stupid that he thought this would take three days.

              Hey thanks for implying I’m a russian bot just because I disagree with you! Fuck you! Newsflash: People can disagree with you.
              I’ve never said he wasn’t a murderer or wanted for warcrimes (though if we’re being fair, every US president is wanted for war crimes in several countries as well.) I think a guy who leads a country as big as Russia is many things, but imagining he could move state apparatus on his own to invade another country based on a whim of his, and when this whim fails he would still be in power, is incredibly stupid. Had this been the case, then Prigozhins coup would have had support. Russias reasons for invading are many, boiling it down to “Putler bad lmao” is as stupid as it is naive.

              If you think he is specifically so evil, why aren’t you volunteering in Ukraine against him?

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      The Ukrainians are fighting this war for their own purpose, to reject tyrannical rule.

      Yes good thing their escaping tyrannical rule for totally wholesome democratic rule… That bans all opposition parties and bombs their own country for nearly a decade