I’ve been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

  • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.clubEnglish
    496·
    1 year ago

    Lemmygrad is filled with the American patriot version of communists. You will excuses for the Uighur genocide and acts of repression against ethnic minorities for the good of the nation as a whole. You also get into weird cases of trying to redefine words because the words don't match their narrative. For instance, I was in one discussion trying to argue that China was a democracy because the government worked for the people, even if there was never any official method of communicating the public will.

    Hexbear seems more geared towards being angry and bitter at liberals for not doing what they see as the right thing. There isn't any discussion on political theory, talk of political organization outside of violent revolution is frowned on, and the focus seems geared on one small part of the political spectrum while ignoring other parts entirely.

    If anything, solarpunk may be the healthier leftist sub because it is geared in part towards solutions instead of focusing on problems.

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
      57·
      1 year ago

      Excuses for the Uighur genocide

      Are you seriously still on that shit?? After everything that has come out??? Also I give solarpunk like a month tops before it goes ecofash.

        • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
          43·
          1 year ago

          A bunch of journalists actually went to China to see the abuse for themselves and didn't walk away with anything to support that narrative. Best they could say to defend their case was "China is hiding the truth, that's why we didn't see anything" Over time, all the claims the right made about the "genocide" were slowly being deconfirmed to the point that it was becoming clear it was all made up. Is there a chance that some of the stuff actually was right? Maybe, but when you know it came from a place of bad faith you don't exactly need to waste energy debunking each and every claim from the likes of faith healers and flat earthers when they have a rich history of flat out lying to drive a narrative.

          When people actively invested in finding out fucked up shit can't find any fucked up shit, it's a pretty good sign it's not happening.

          EDIT: Doesn't help that a lot of the people making the biggest fuss about the Uighurs are all siding with Israel in their genocide. One of the big key things that genocide deniers do is make a big stink about fake genocides that they made up on the spot (Fx: the great replacement)