In the 2020 presidential election cycle, more than $14bn went to federal candidates, party committees, and Super Pacs – double the $7bn doled out in the 2016 cycle. Total giving in 2024 is bound to be much higher.

That money is not supporting US democracy. If anything, that money is contributing to rising Trumpism and neofascism.

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    Ok so here’s what I don’t understand: Trump is claiming he will set up camps for protesters on day one and his followers will murder democrats in cold blood.

    Obviously these things are against not only the constitution but against the law. So is he going to suspend the constitution and the law? Can I rob banks during this time and get away without repercussions? Extrajudicial murder? Or is the law only suspended for his actions? That goes against the law so the law would have to be permanently suspended. A nation without laws, that means we would be rent/mortgage free as no one is following the laws; if you see now where this leads, total societal collapse.

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      It's a bid to return to feudalism, where the strong rule over the weak. Instead of a nation of laws, we return to a nation of men who determine whom the law protects versus who the law binds. They've been working on this for generations, and they've never been closer to success.

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        These ideals maybe work when forcing someone to do manual labor but not advanced skills. These aren’t views compatible with modern society. I can’t imagine the world looking kindly upon this. The economy and dollar would crash everyone who can leave, will. Military won’t function. The government wouldn’t function. Everything would fall apart. No food. No gas. And the left has guns too, I don’t understand why red necks think everyone would just go along willingly jfc

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          I think most of the Republican base don’t consider this as a factor. To them everything would continue on as it is just better and with no liberals, LGBTQ, or minorities.

          To the masses, Social Security checks would still flow, Medicaid would cover them when they are sick and disability checks would still come in the mail, roads would be maintained, mail would be delivered cheaply, stocks will remain trustworthy investments, food/water will be safe… Until the liberals are gone, then the funny starts.

          The business interests think their regulations will disappear and profits will be made… never mind those other regulations that keep our banking system stable, the power on, and customers roaming around with money in their pockets to spend. For the unscrupulous businesses that will be true, but it will quickly look like the late 1800s with huge monopolies dominating everything… Until a dictator rises to power on the backs of the upset masses and it’s taken away…

          But for the elites and the power hungry, they know better. They would rather rule in hell than than serve with angels. They see how a few have total control in Russia, China, NK, etc. They want it too, even if it means they would have no where safe to spend those riches.

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            Considering the end of our current government, no one would be forced to work and could take up arms against the people trying to enslave them. Given dems are 60-70% of population., what makes them so sure they wouldn’t be overwhelmed. Looking at fighting age males alone, extremely outnumbered

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              They think they control the police and military. The South thought they had the advantage as well. History is about to repeat itself.

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                The police and military would need to be paid otherwise they won’t show up, regardless would probably stay home to protect their family. This plan doesn’t seem thoroughly explored. The world’s leading superpower being overrun by bible thumping slack jawed yokels. Lmao, what a joke.

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                  They largely control the nation's resources. They can pay, the question is how many of our police and military forces are willing to sell their loyalty.

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                    Given that 95% of U.S. law enforcement personnel are conservatives, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them will be on board.

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                    What resources do they control? You’re also assuming the ones involved would be ok leaving their family alone.

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              When you live your life in black and white thinking, there are only binary choices. The idea that their ideas could possibly fail to produce the results they want doesn't enter their heads.

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      Can I rob banks during this time and get away without repercussions?

      No, that's a crime against the rich, who matter.

      Extrajudicial murder?

      Depends on your skin color and socioeconomic status.