Zach Shrewsbury faces an improbable task to replace the conservative Democrat in the face of a Republican onslaught – but he won’t be put off

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    1 year ago

    Though, honestly, there is something very refreshing about someone who is willing to propose something (a nonsense test) and then declare that it is the exact same as another test with which they disagree.

    Hey, if you want to deny that centrists have been both declaring that progressives can't win in red states and also blaming progressives when centrists lose, it's fine that you want to deny the lived experience of every progressive. Gaslighting and condescension are what centrists fall back on every time they're wrong, after all.

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      1 year ago

      if you want to deny that

      Where did I deny it?

      All I'm saying is that it's adorable that you hate this narrative until you find an occasion that suits you, at which point, oh obviously this narrative is true.

      So, either the centrists have been correct all this time or you are just excited to have a chance to spout the same nonsense. Either way, not really a position worth taking seriously.

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        All I’m saying is that it’s adorable that you hate this narrative until you find an occasion that suits you, at which point, oh obviously this narrative is true.

        It was true enough for centrists to beat progressives over the head with ever since centrists' candidate lost to centrists' second choice in 2016. It stops being true the instant a progressive says it to a centrist. Unsurprising how that conveniently works.

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          It's like talking to a brick wall.

          So, either the centrists have been correct all this time or you are just excited to have a chance to spout the same nonsense. Either way, not really a position worth taking seriously.

          I've got better things to do with my time. Have a good day!

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              1 year ago

              Okay, I have to admit I'm still curious.

              Is the proposition you outline horseshit, as it was when the centrists used it? Or is it reasonable and thus the centrists were correct?

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                  1 year ago

                  Again, do you think it's true now and was true before? Or were you spouting horseshit as well?

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                    1 year ago

                    I answered your question. You don't like the answer, so you're going to ignore it and repeat the question.

                    I will point out any further gaslighting, condescension, and abuse, but I will no longer engage your arguments. You have shown that you are not arguing in good faith, and I will no longer participate on your terms.