Muslim Americans voted overwhelmingly for Biden. But community leaders in swing states tell NBC News that the president's handling of the war in Gaza risks losing their support.
I agree with you 100%, but that's the reality of the situation. We should have anything but FPTP voting in this country so people like American Muslims don't have to make faustian bargains, but I hope they realize they do have to make that bargain if they wish to retain their rights.
I never even implied it was great. Reality is often not great. It's still reality and the reality is it's going to be either Trump or Biden barring Trump not being allowed on ballots. So they only have two choices and not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump. That sucks, but that's just how it is going to work in 2024. Nothing is going to change in terms of U.S. elections over the next year and to expect that is a folly.
The reality is that American Muslims are not going to like who is president regardless. I hope they think about who is less likely to oppress them and that isn't Trump.
I never even implied it was great. Reality is often not great.
It's great for the politicians who think they are in a position to demand unconditional fealty, and the people who matter to them. If the party doesn't want people to act like they're being taken advantage of, the party just has to stop taking advantage of people.
People who have never been betrayed by the party they vote for sure love to lecture people who have.
Excuse me, but you don't know a fucking thing about me. As a disabled person, the Democratic Party betrayed me by not implementing single payer healthcare. You know what's worse? Anything Trump has in mind. So no, I don't like Democrats. I vote for them because the worst Democrat is better than the best Republican and those are the only two valid options right now.
You were talking to me. Sure seemed like you were talking about me. And I can't know what someone else on the internet would consider a lecture, but it considering I've been told I was lecturing by writing a paragraph, I could very well have been lecturing you from your perspective.
Well then, I'm sorry your party betrayed you. I'm sorry they betrayed me, too.
It recently betrayed people who will withhold their votes because of that betrayal. I'm sorry it betrayed them too.
What do you suppose they thought was gonna happen if they kept betraying people? That everyone would be as willing to stick with people who betray them as you and I are?
The party is playing its voters for suckers, and never once imagined that this might make people less willing to participate in a system like that.
And if they are less willing to participate, Trump gets in. And it gets worse for them. So, as I said, not voting or voting for Trump is not going to help them. Feeling betrayed won't change the fact that there are only two options and one is inherently worse than the other.
I agree with you 100%, but that's the reality of the situation. We should have anything but FPTP voting in this country so people like American Muslims don't have to make faustian bargains, but I hope they realize they do have to make that bargain if they wish to retain their rights.
That’s the neat part about this system: Even if they do vote there’s a decent chance Biden still loses and they lose their rights anyway.
This entire world is fucked.
It's great that voters have to adapt to politicians instead of the other way around.
I never even implied it was great. Reality is often not great. It's still reality and the reality is it's going to be either Trump or Biden barring Trump not being allowed on ballots. So they only have two choices and not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump. That sucks, but that's just how it is going to work in 2024. Nothing is going to change in terms of U.S. elections over the next year and to expect that is a folly.
The reality is that American Muslims are not going to like who is president regardless. I hope they think about who is less likely to oppress them and that isn't Trump.
It's great for the politicians who think they are in a position to demand unconditional fealty, and the people who matter to them. If the party doesn't want people to act like they're being taken advantage of, the party just has to stop taking advantage of people.
People who have never been betrayed by the party they vote for sure love to lecture people who have.
Excuse me, but you don't know a fucking thing about me. As a disabled person, the Democratic Party betrayed me by not implementing single payer healthcare. You know what's worse? Anything Trump has in mind. So no, I don't like Democrats. I vote for them because the worst Democrat is better than the best Republican and those are the only two valid options right now.
Wasn't talking about you. Were you lecturing me?
You were talking to me. Sure seemed like you were talking about me. And I can't know what someone else on the internet would consider a lecture, but it considering I've been told I was lecturing by writing a paragraph, I could very well have been lecturing you from your perspective.
Well then, I'm sorry your party betrayed you. I'm sorry they betrayed me, too.
It recently betrayed people who will withhold their votes because of that betrayal. I'm sorry it betrayed them too.
What do you suppose they thought was gonna happen if they kept betraying people? That everyone would be as willing to stick with people who betray them as you and I are?
The party is playing its voters for suckers, and never once imagined that this might make people less willing to participate in a system like that.
And if they are less willing to participate, Trump gets in. And it gets worse for them. So, as I said, not voting or voting for Trump is not going to help them. Feeling betrayed won't change the fact that there are only two options and one is inherently worse than the other.
We absolutely do not “have to.” This is the slightly less overtly fascist party daring us to find someone better. We absolutely can.
Cool. Who?
When a battered partner for whom you have zero understanding of why they don’t just leave, what are you going to say?