Jfc did Russian propagandists just put the pronouns for these bots…on shuffle? I’m not saying all of you guys are bots but it seems like the majority. Lol I wonder if there’s a script I can use to shut you down.
Nope, it would make sense if the pronoun tags were 90% he/him and she/her, but the extent of variation among the tags user choose is completely unrealistic and arbitrary that any community would have.
Any tankie space would obviously be like 98% he/him neckbeards only.
We’re a radically pro-trans community. A purge of transphobes near the beginning was a formative moment for our community. We’re radically welcoming of trans folks, so a lot of trans folks post here.
Also trans folks are disproportionately leftist (for a good reason, liberation for trans folks cannot come through capitalism), the idea that “tankies” would be majority “he/him neckbeards” is silly, if not actually outright transphobic.
trans folks are disproportionately leftist for a good reason
I said “tankies,” not leftists. I’m sure most trans people are democratic socialists, anarchists, or non-authoritarian communists. I have a hard time believing a lot of you guys aren’t disinformation bots.
The way “tankie” is used today it just means communist who has actually read communist theory and understands the nature of imperialism and applies it correctly to the current geopolitical situation in the world.
Solipsism and paranoia win the day in your brain yet again. People can’t possibly earnestly have these opinions, because I’m not used to them, must be bots. Doesnt matter that they have three years of post history where they talk about innocuous stuff that has nothing to do with Russia and china. Thats just part of the act. And the fact that you think the pronoun tags make it MORE likely that we’re bots is even more laughable.
Its really fucking depressing seeing how effective the “bot” propaganda has been.
At this point I don’t think you’re a bot but it’s pretty obvious many of you are. The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
What can I say, we’re a united front when it comes to arguing with liberals. Honestly, we didnt really see upvote totals as high as these before federation, which I think is a combination of the fact that we’re, like I said, united in the face of these issues, and also the fact that some people in other instances agree with us. We care about each other and communist is a collectivist ideology. There’s also a lot of us. And trust me, if you believe I"M not a bot then I can tell you that in the three years before federation noone here stuck me as not being a genuine human being. Other than the bit accounts and like the like, two actual bots we made for specific purposes.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
Damn, thats weird because every community I’m a part of is gender diverse. Even not explictly leftist ones, like I’m in a discord server for a streamer called Barry and like half the server is trans or nonbinary. I’m pretty used to interacting with trans and enby people in my life at this point. Have a fair few of them in my life offline as well. This seems like a you problem.
maybe take even five minutes to think about what you’re suggesting here: you believe Russia or China or whatever has created 20.000 bots just for them to sit around on their own instance for three years before federating?
You’re talking about one of the oldest lemmy instances, the most active established instance, and the instance with highest per capita activity, at a time when activity has suddenly become higher than ever because suddenly there are a bunch of redditors saying awful shit all over our feeds and we can go dunk on them without needing to bother with accounts on different sites for the first time in over three years.
You’re also vastly overestimating what bots require and do: all we have to do is look at the largest and most sophisticated botnets - the CIA/State Department astroturfing botnets - to see how even the laziest and crudest copy/pasta spam is all it takes to completely dominate and drown out opposition. Literally no one needs to be sneaky, just yell the exact same verbatim press release quote over and over from ten thousand firstnamelastname12345 accounts with stock photo profile pics and you control the conversation completely and no one cares if you get caught out, like the CIA/State Department bots constantly do.
You’re also claiming that the instance was built up with chatbots more sophisticated than anything there is today - and all of those still-not-coherent most-sophisticated AIs are extremely expensive to run - starting at a time when the most advanced language generating AI was GPT-2, which was only a step or so above old markov chain babbling. You can literally go and look at the ancient post history yourself.
I would believe you, but it’s very possible you’re a bot and everything you just said is an AI trained to say this in order to make people reduce their doubts about your user authenticity.
More than half of our mods and admins are trans or enby and most of the rest are some other flavour of queer, about a quarter to a third or so of the user base is trans or enby iirc based on the poll we did on the demographics of the user base a year or so ago, I’m trans, the person you’re speaking to is an enby I believe, about half of the people dunking on you are trans/enby and almost all are queer because hexbear is radically anti discrimination and routinely cyberbullies bigots
We’re literally the largest explicitly queer instance on Lemmy except blahaj.zone
quite literally no. I’m a trans person and find hexbear to be one of the most radically accepting of any online space I’ve ever encountered next to purely trans ones. in some cases moreso because we ban truscum.
I’ve met many liberal politicians, activists, and organizers in my life. I’ve been to many polling places dominated by liberals. This is absolutely not true and a weird thing to say - tons of women and Black people are present. Liberalism is a white supremacy upholding system, but it’s also the only option many marginalized people believe they have because of how closed off political horizons are in the US. For careerists, it gives an opportunity to be a black face in a high place.
No, that is true, even if it is less directly disqualifying of the specific political tendencies, and the closing of practical horizons of American politics meant that there is a vast demobilization of political action. So, mostly because voting and engagement with mainstream politics is highly correlated with several axes of privilege, white people vote more than non-white, wealthy vote more than poor, etc. So, most mainstream politics and all electoral positions over-represents white middle-to-upper class. There is less of a gender gap on the face of it for parties than one would think because there are a lot of white and women from conservative areas that vote Republican. But there is also a boomerang effect of people that are privileged enough to not suffer ill effects of failure of sabotaged progressive movements such as the Black Panthers and Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition are more likely to vote to the left of the Democratic Party. Because you could get some minor pork-barrel spending if you support the establishment over progressive candidate that will just be crushed by the machine or fizzle out due to internal fractures and more minor sabotage.
So, yes they are. Maybe that is 90% of electoral politics, but it is true that Soc-Dems are disproportionately white men. Though that is more of mainstream politics over-representing privilege on many axes. And also if it is divorced from daily struggle and immediate issues (as mainstream politics works to alienate us from), then politics becomes horse-race stuff for nerds.
I’d say YOU guys (Hexbears and Lemmygradians) are bots. In fact, I’m probably talking to one right now.
The pronoun tags give it away. They’re completely random. My inbox as follows:
Jfc did Russian propagandists just put the pronouns for these bots…on shuffle? I’m not saying all of you guys are bots but it seems like the majority. Lol I wonder if there’s a script I can use to shut you down.
being a bot is when you have pronouns and the more pronouns you have the more Russian you are
I have “any”. So do i have the most pronouns or the least?
Yes
Am superbot
he/him er/ihm он/его él
Nope, it would make sense if the pronoun tags were 90% he/him and she/her, but the extent of variation among the tags user choose is completely unrealistic and arbitrary that any community would have.
Any tankie space would obviously be like 98% he/him neckbeards only.
We’re a radically pro-trans community. A purge of transphobes near the beginning was a formative moment for our community. We’re radically welcoming of trans folks, so a lot of trans folks post here.
Also trans folks are disproportionately leftist (for a good reason, liberation for trans folks cannot come through capitalism), the idea that “tankies” would be majority “he/him neckbeards” is silly, if not actually outright transphobic.
I said “tankies,” not leftists. I’m sure most trans people are democratic socialists, anarchists, or non-authoritarian communists. I have a hard time believing a lot of you guys aren’t disinformation bots.
The way “tankie” is used today it just means communist who has actually read communist theory and understands the nature of imperialism and applies it correctly to the current geopolitical situation in the world.
Solipsism and paranoia win the day in your brain yet again. People can’t possibly earnestly have these opinions, because I’m not used to them, must be bots. Doesnt matter that they have three years of post history where they talk about innocuous stuff that has nothing to do with Russia and china. Thats just part of the act. And the fact that you think the pronoun tags make it MORE likely that we’re bots is even more laughable.
Its really fucking depressing seeing how effective the “bot” propaganda has been.
At this point I don’t think you’re a bot but it’s pretty obvious many of you are. The fact any and every comment gets 10+ upvotes in 15 minutes is unnatural for a site like this. There should be some comments with under 5 upvotes but I NEVER see hexbear comments get under that.
I have a hard time believing any community is that gender diverse.
What can I say, we’re a united front when it comes to arguing with liberals. Honestly, we didnt really see upvote totals as high as these before federation, which I think is a combination of the fact that we’re, like I said, united in the face of these issues, and also the fact that some people in other instances agree with us. We care about each other and communist is a collectivist ideology. There’s also a lot of us. And trust me, if you believe I"M not a bot then I can tell you that in the three years before federation noone here stuck me as not being a genuine human being. Other than the bit accounts and like the like, two actual bots we made for specific purposes.
Damn, thats weird because every community I’m a part of is gender diverse. Even not explictly leftist ones, like I’m in a discord server for a streamer called Barry and like half the server is trans or nonbinary. I’m pretty used to interacting with trans and enby people in my life at this point. Have a fair few of them in my life offline as well. This seems like a you problem.
maybe take even five minutes to think about what you’re suggesting here: you believe Russia or China or whatever has created 20.000 bots just for them to sit around on their own instance for three years before federating?
Test running the bots + making it seem more realistic is definitely feasible.
also lmao at the upvote thing, you wish you had a community even remotely as close as ours
We love our comrades don’t we folks?
You’re talking about one of the oldest lemmy instances, the most active established instance, and the instance with highest per capita activity, at a time when activity has suddenly become higher than ever because suddenly there are a bunch of redditors saying awful shit all over our feeds and we can go dunk on them without needing to bother with accounts on different sites for the first time in over three years.
You’re also vastly overestimating what bots require and do: all we have to do is look at the largest and most sophisticated botnets - the CIA/State Department astroturfing botnets - to see how even the laziest and crudest copy/pasta spam is all it takes to completely dominate and drown out opposition. Literally no one needs to be sneaky, just yell the exact same verbatim press release quote over and over from ten thousand firstnamelastname12345 accounts with stock photo profile pics and you control the conversation completely and no one cares if you get caught out, like the CIA/State Department bots constantly do.
You’re also claiming that the instance was built up with chatbots more sophisticated than anything there is today - and all of those still-not-coherent most-sophisticated AIs are extremely expensive to run - starting at a time when the most advanced language generating AI was GPT-2, which was only a step or so above old markov chain babbling. You can literally go and look at the ancient post history yourself.
I would believe you, but it’s very possible you’re a bot and everything you just said is an AI trained to say this in order to make people reduce their doubts about your user authenticity.
More than half of our mods and admins are trans or enby and most of the rest are some other flavour of queer, about a quarter to a third or so of the user base is trans or enby iirc based on the poll we did on the demographics of the user base a year or so ago, I’m trans, the person you’re speaking to is an enby I believe, about half of the people dunking on you are trans/enby and almost all are queer because hexbear is radically anti discrimination and routinely cyberbullies bigots
We’re literally the largest explicitly queer instance on Lemmy except blahaj.zone
quite literally no. I’m a trans person and find hexbear to be one of the most radically accepting of any online space I’ve ever encountered next to purely trans ones. in some cases moreso because we ban truscum.
You’re having a hard time because you’re realizing you’re closer to being a bot than we are.
why don’t you use this as a learning opportunity to reconsider your beliefs about tankies?
Liberal and Soc-Dem spaces are mostly white male neckbeards, so extrapolating further, leftists must be 200% he/him neckbeards.
I’ve met many liberal politicians, activists, and organizers in my life. I’ve been to many polling places dominated by liberals. This is absolutely not true and a weird thing to say - tons of women and Black people are present. Liberalism is a white supremacy upholding system, but it’s also the only option many marginalized people believe they have because of how closed off political horizons are in the US. For careerists, it gives an opportunity to be a black face in a high place.
Soc Dem spaces, yeah, ime, this is correct.
No they aren’t tf. Maybe on reddit but that’s 90% of reddit.
No, that is true, even if it is less directly disqualifying of the specific political tendencies, and the closing of practical horizons of American politics meant that there is a vast demobilization of political action. So, mostly because voting and engagement with mainstream politics is highly correlated with several axes of privilege, white people vote more than non-white, wealthy vote more than poor, etc. So, most mainstream politics and all electoral positions over-represents white middle-to-upper class. There is less of a gender gap on the face of it for parties than one would think because there are a lot of white and women from conservative areas that vote Republican. But there is also a boomerang effect of people that are privileged enough to not suffer ill effects of failure of sabotaged progressive movements such as the Black Panthers and Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition are more likely to vote to the left of the Democratic Party. Because you could get some minor pork-barrel spending if you support the establishment over progressive candidate that will just be crushed by the machine or fizzle out due to internal fractures and more minor sabotage.
So, yes they are. Maybe that is 90% of electoral politics, but it is true that Soc-Dems are disproportionately white men. Though that is more of mainstream politics over-representing privilege on many axes. And also if it is divorced from daily struggle and immediate issues (as mainstream politics works to alienate us from), then politics becomes horse-race stuff for nerds.
Blah blah blah I don’t see any proof so I’m not reading this.
the fact that you’re from the midwest already told us you can barely read. no child left behind ass.
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What are your opinions on pronoun tags?
Lol proving my point, this is like, the exact thing a bot would reply.
Lmao, seriously though, what your your opinions on them?
Support them.
Good, then why are you trying to use that as proof we are bots? Like have you ever even looked at hexbear.net?
Nice transphobia you got there. How are cis people that fucking ignorant of nonbinary people existing?
NB exist but they aren’t 60% of the population like on hexbear.
I know it might come as a shock to you, but Hexbear’s not a random sample of the population.
That’s like saying Lemmygrad can’t be >90% communists because the global population isn’t
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