just a dismissal

Sorry, that would be an Appeal to the stone fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone

The point of that comment is that Liberals support whatever war the U.S. currently wages while at the same time pretending to be anti-war by condemning the “past wars” (the US still occupies a lot of the places they went to war with) because this time it’ll be different!

I fail to see how arming neo-Nazis and putting in Ukraine will play out any differently than arming religious fundamentalists did in the Middle East, every time I ask this I either get called a Russian troll or genocide apologist.

It means they peddle far-left conspiracy theories like Palestinian children needing water and food to survive which is something that Israeli scientists have debunked

Nobody here is denying what U.S. did in the past

Which is the issue with Liberals really, you come around to willing to condem what the U.S. does after it’s decades in the past and there’s no possible way to revert any of the damage, while it’s contemporary you’ll justify everything in the name of spreading/protecting democracy, fighting terrorism, standing up to autocrats, etc.

Some people still justify bombing Yugoslavia and invading Iraq to this day too so i don’t even know if that first part is really true.

This is such old news

It’s from August 16

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oh…

So the CIA interviewed a single anonymous person who probably doesn’t even exist. Cool journalism!

Fedora Workstation

Well if by producing you mean raiding their own museums for equipment then yea.

No, I meant Russia literally outproducing the United States and the EU 10 to 1 while also having vastly superior inventories when compared to the dwindling supply America is running through. Libs like to pound their chest and boast that Russia’s nominal GDP is lower than places like Germany but they forget that industrial capital is what wins you wars, no matter how many rumors about the Russian army having to gut washing machines for parts you post online it won’t change the fact that they are winning a war of attrition against Ukraine and the other 50 or so countries sending them aid.

Also begging for weapons seems a bit more dignified than having your army steal washing machines and build the electronics of your equipment out of those.

How do Liberals square off the fact that Russia is outproducing America and EU for war equipment with this insane washing machine myth? How many washing machines are in Russia and Ukraine anyway? Must be a lot if they’re kicking NATO’s ass while still relying on them for parts

ШHДT DФ ЧФЦ MЭДИ, CФMЯДDЭ? ЭVЭЯЧ ЯЦSSIДИ CITIZЭИ GЭTS HЭXБЭДЯ․ИЭT ДИD LЭMMЧGЯДD․ML ДCCФЦИTS ДT БIЯTH SФ ШЭ CДИ PДЯTICIPДTЭ IИ KЯЭMLIИ TЯФLL FДЯMS TФ SPЯЭДD ФЦЯ PЯФPДGДИDД ФИ LЭMMЧ!

according to reports circulating among Russian military bloggers and media

The source they use for the claim in the article is literally a pro-Ukraine Telegram profile (vchkogpu) but they get to pass it as a credible Russian source because the Western audience who doesn’t speak the language and won’t lift a finger to actually verify the information they’re being fed won’t know better.

It’s astounding how much of just flat out fake information started being spread around on mainstream media after February 2022, we’re at a stage where big publications like Politico are reposting insane Ukrainian myths from Telegram channels.

Yeah right, and when Trump talked about the “bad hombres” coming over the border and bringing crime with them he was totally just talking about the bad Mexicans. This totally isn’t just another American candidate for the presidency stoking racial hatred to garner votes from people who believe these things.

It’s not brigading when I see a dumb post on my front page and decide to comment on it.

Reddit is a Liberal echo chamber that actively censors things that aren’t the US state department line, go back to it if federation is such a problem.

BUT AT WHAT COST???

At this point I support the US sending the F-16s tomorrow, yesterday, whenever they want really, it’s not like anything short of nukes or direct NATO involvement has any chance of flipping the current situation around.

Let’s see those toy planes shot down by Russia’s anti-air and extremely dug-in defenses, I’m sure it’ll do very well for morale in the Ukrainian army and support back at home in the US!

We’re destroying that shithole and ensuring continued Western dominance on the cheap

LMAO, libs on their way to analyze geopolitics: https://piped.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=L2quonm59Kc

Let’s go over some facts we can source from Western sources:

1. Russia is outperforming every single EU economy except for Spain

2. Russia is firing 40 to 50 thousand artillery shells A DAY while the United States can only produce 30 thousand A MONTH, which allows Ukraine to fire about 4000 to 5000 in comparison. Russia is able to fire IN A SINGLE DAY what the United States takes A MONTH to produce, got it?

3. The so hyped Ukrainian “counteroffensive” has been going on for THREE MONTHS and they haven’t even been able to breach the first line of Russian defenses, let alone produce any gains to justify all the equipment and men they wasted

The plan to isolate and crash Russia’s economy failed, so did the plan to send Ukraine garbage Western equipment without proper training while expecting miraculous results from offensives that do not posses air support and are outgunned 10 to 1 in artillery, I’m not so sure if “shithole” and “western dominance” are words that correctly describe Russia’s situation here.

Being homophobic is ok as long as it’s a bit to own le tankies

Ask Ukrainians which version they prefer - US involvement or not.

Yeah there’s just one little problem here fam: the US backed a coup there and installed pro-war neo-nazis in power, there was no question about it left to the Ukrainians.

defensive alliance

NATO is defensive? lol, lmao

a corrupt state

That’s Ukraine, it used to be considered the most corrupt place in Europe by the Western media right until February 2022

waging a war of expansion

That’s also Ukraine since they’re trying to take territory from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics after they declared independence following the coup against Viktor Yanukovych in 2014

it’s weird that I never see any comments supporting Ukraine from hexbear users

Over on Hexbear and Lemmygrad we don’t take kindly to neo-nazis sorry but that’s just how it is