Well I have to concede that I was very narrow and harsh in my statement that all people are monsters, bar none. I agree with the idea that good and evil are not objective and are mostly subjective. We use our labels to say, "I'm with the GOOD group, the salvageable and honorable ones" and to segregate ourselves from others we deem unworthy. We're very tribal that way.
Sadly many of the trump supporters DO have zero regret and inability or unwillingness to see why what they did was so monumentally horrific. Animals do sometimes kill for "fun," if you can see it as that - I've seen footage of chimps torturing and killing their own kind just to pass the time. Somehow it still makes me recoil and see such acts as horrific.
And like you I have Republican acquaintances who find what happened on Jan 6th utterly repugnant, so yes I do agree such people exist. I have mostly distanced myself from these people, because I find I'm afraid to even be around republican-affiliated people anymore.
I'm just putting my ideas out there - not trying to argue for against humanity's capacity for goodness. At the end of Camelot King Arthur says, "some of the drops do sparkle." Not many, but some. We can only hope the ones that sparkle are powerful enough to outshine the waves of those who would drown us all in violence, crime, and stupidity.
We can only hope the ones that sparkle are powerful enough to outshine the waves of those who would drown us all in violence, crime, and stupidity.
Indeed. "Wait, and hope" as the Count of Monte Cristo says (at least I think. Haven't dusted off that book in a while), but also, if possible, become one of the few that sparkle among the masses.
Appreciate that we ended this discussion amiciably in the end!
I usually am just posting my thoughts and am surprised when people get angry over them. I'm fine with someone disagreeing if they can be reasonable and thoughtful as you definitely were. I appreciate the amicability also!!!
Well I have to concede that I was very narrow and harsh in my statement that all people are monsters, bar none. I agree with the idea that good and evil are not objective and are mostly subjective. We use our labels to say, "I'm with the GOOD group, the salvageable and honorable ones" and to segregate ourselves from others we deem unworthy. We're very tribal that way.
Sadly many of the trump supporters DO have zero regret and inability or unwillingness to see why what they did was so monumentally horrific. Animals do sometimes kill for "fun," if you can see it as that - I've seen footage of chimps torturing and killing their own kind just to pass the time. Somehow it still makes me recoil and see such acts as horrific.
And like you I have Republican acquaintances who find what happened on Jan 6th utterly repugnant, so yes I do agree such people exist. I have mostly distanced myself from these people, because I find I'm afraid to even be around republican-affiliated people anymore.
I'm just putting my ideas out there - not trying to argue for against humanity's capacity for goodness. At the end of Camelot King Arthur says, "some of the drops do sparkle." Not many, but some. We can only hope the ones that sparkle are powerful enough to outshine the waves of those who would drown us all in violence, crime, and stupidity.
I appreciate your thoughts and feedback.
Indeed. "Wait, and hope" as the Count of Monte Cristo says (at least I think. Haven't dusted off that book in a while), but also, if possible, become one of the few that sparkle among the masses.
Appreciate that we ended this discussion amiciably in the end!
I usually am just posting my thoughts and am surprised when people get angry over them. I'm fine with someone disagreeing if they can be reasonable and thoughtful as you definitely were. I appreciate the amicability also!!!