Thousands of people rallied Saturday in central London for a pro-Palestinian protest following police warnings that anyone showing support for the militant group Hamas could face arrest.
Both sides elect people that are OK with their people dying for their own government policies. One attacks to oppress an apparant enemy, the other attacks to free themselves from oppression. They are not the same, yet innocent people suffer and die because of both.
You think that practical obliteration of Gaza and hundreds of thousands of innocent dead is preferable to continuing attempts to long term solutions?
Make no mistake, there will be nothing left of Gaza after this.
The Palestinian cause had been increasingly gaining empathy, Hamas set the clock back decades and basically put the entire citizenship on the butcher block.
When peaceful change is impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
Israel politicians aren't idiots and know this. They wanted their own people to die (and have been caught saying so, to paraphrase, "terrorism is a small price to pay for being a super power") so that they could have an excuse to perform genocide, a final solution to the Palestine problem.
You think that practical obliteration of Gaza and hundreds of thousands of innocent dead is preferable to continuing attempts to long term solutions?
Who’s attempting long-term solutions? Because it’s sure as hell not Israel and its far right government. No seriously the current situation of Palestine is specifically so that the Palestinian people have no representative who can call for a two-state solution.
Also given what we see from the West now, I don’t see the empathy doing much.
Well, the Oslo accords were almost there until a Zionist assassinated the prime minister, who was replaced by Bibi and we all know how that went. The 2012 ceasefire was also going somewhere, but Israel didn’t hold their end of the deal (along with being vehemently opposed to the newly formed unified Palestinian government and fighting it at every turn) so the whole thing fell through. An Israel ruled by the far-right, and especially by Bibi, can’t and won’t pursue peace.
Bibi actively created and maintained the current situation in which peace is impossible.
There is no longterm solution with Hamas. They demand the complete destruction of Israel and all Jews. The Jewish people don't have to roll over and let themselves be destroyed, even if internet keyboard warriors demand it. They'll do what they must to survive, no different than you or I.
"I agree there are many innocent
Palestinians who don't agree with this,
but if you have a missile in your goddamn
kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am
I allowed to defend myself? We have to
defend ourselves, we have the full right to
do so, he added."
Would you choose a slow guaranteed death through oppression or risk a possible quick death for a better life for all your family and friends?
I'm asking you. Not your opinion of a whole population. I'm asking you. Imagine yourself in that camp, being bombed daily. What do you choose to do to survive and thrive as a human?
Because letting them go is letting Hamas go free and they will inevitably carry out plans to destroy Israel and all Jews. You know this. Calls to free palistine are nothing but calls to see Israel destroyed.
I feel for the Palestinians, but Hamas is to blame. They knew what the response would be, yet they decided to savagely attack Israel.
Both sides elect people that are OK with their people dying for their own government policies. One attacks to oppress an apparant enemy, the other attacks to free themselves from oppression. They are not the same, yet innocent people suffer and die because of both.
More than half of the people alive in Palestine were too young to vote in their last election.
@Szymon I agree with this apart from the "elect" part. Hamas last won an election in 2006, with less than half the vote.
Gaza hasn't held an election in over 17 years and the majority of its population are too young to have voted then.
Meanwhile all citizens just want to live their lives in peace.
It really is tragic and frustrating.
There has not been an election by Palestine in Gaza for roughly 17 years. Hamas isn't exactly democratic.
Yeah, but I don't blame them. It was either that or let Israel increase oppression.
You think that practical obliteration of Gaza and hundreds of thousands of innocent dead is preferable to continuing attempts to long term solutions?
Make no mistake, there will be nothing left of Gaza after this.
The Palestinian cause had been increasingly gaining empathy, Hamas set the clock back decades and basically put the entire citizenship on the butcher block.
Suicide by cop at a national level.
When peaceful change is impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable.
Israel politicians aren't idiots and know this. They wanted their own people to die (and have been caught saying so, to paraphrase, "terrorism is a small price to pay for being a super power") so that they could have an excuse to perform genocide, a final solution to the Palestine problem.
Lol, you actually think there are "continuing attempts at long term solutions"?
Other than the ethnic cleansing kind of "solution" on Israel's part, that is
Who’s attempting long-term solutions? Because it’s sure as hell not Israel and its far right government. No seriously the current situation of Palestine is specifically so that the Palestinian people have no representative who can call for a two-state solution.
Also given what we see from the West now, I don’t see the empathy doing much.
Who is/was attempting a peaceful solution?
A few links:
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Making-a-difference/Change-Agent/2014/0910/13-Israeli-and-Palestinian-groups-building-peace
After Hamas’s brutal attack all voices of reason have been silenced.
All we can do now is seat back and watch the apocalypse unfurl.
Well, the Oslo accords were almost there until a Zionist assassinated the prime minister, who was replaced by Bibi and we all know how that went. The 2012 ceasefire was also going somewhere, but Israel didn’t hold their end of the deal (along with being vehemently opposed to the newly formed unified Palestinian government and fighting it at every turn) so the whole thing fell through. An Israel ruled by the far-right, and especially by Bibi, can’t and won’t pursue peace.
Bibi actively created and maintained the current situation in which peace is impossible.
Prime ministers come and go. Many Israeli citizens fell empathy for Palestinians but a lot less do now.
Bibi barely won a majority of the votes, now the country will stand in solidarity behind him. Thanks Hamas.
There is no longterm solution with Hamas. They demand the complete destruction of Israel and all Jews. The Jewish people don't have to roll over and let themselves be destroyed, even if internet keyboard warriors demand it. They'll do what they must to survive, no different than you or I.
Lol, take this garbage opinion and fuck off
https://lemm.ee/post/11463523
"I agree there are many innocent Palestinians who don't agree with this, but if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am I allowed to defend myself? We have to defend ourselves, we have the full right to do so, he added."
Keep simping for terrorists.
Keep showing you have no fuckin clue what the history of this area is
Keep simping for the ethnic cleansers, it's a good look on idiots like you
I get it. You support genocide.
Would you choose a slow guaranteed death through oppression or risk a possible quick death for a better life for all your family and friends?
I'm asking you. Not your opinion of a whole population. I'm asking you. Imagine yourself in that camp, being bombed daily. What do you choose to do to survive and thrive as a human?
There was no guaranteed death, things were very difficult and would have continued to be for a long time. At least there was hope.
Now there is a guaranteed death, thanks to Hamas.
“for a better life” in this case the leveling of the entire Gaza Strip and the obliteration of ANY hope of self governance?
Half the population of Gaza is 19 and under. Sounds like a guaranteed early death for me if few people are living to an old age.
Why again do they need to be caged up for generations?
Because letting them go is letting Hamas go free and they will inevitably carry out plans to destroy Israel and all Jews. You know this. Calls to free palistine are nothing but calls to see Israel destroyed.
There is no Hamas without Israel's oppression.
#1 rule of the internet: always discard everything before the ", but"