You don’t seem to actually want to discuss the implications of that point. Take care.

Can you show me where I conceded your point? That was not my intention, as I do not concede your point. To the contrary, I assume the “typical” coffee contains far less than 400mg of caffeine.

I further do not concede that the drink was adequately labeled as caffeinated. Not because I know it wasnt, I don’t, but since the girl knew she couldn’t have caffeine it seems unlikely she would intentionally ignore information about caffeine content that was adequately marked.

It’s possible she was being generally unobservant, maybe even fair to assume it, but that just brings us back around to the only point I’ve tried to make. It’s reasonable to assume lemonade is not caffeinated since AFAIK it’s pretty much always uncaffeinated. So it doesn’t necessarily matter how many beverages at the self serve were caffeinated because who has ever heard of caffeinated lemonade?

There’s no calculation she should have been expected to assume re: caffeine to volume ratio of lemonade so it’s not a stretch that she wouldn’t think to check.

The fact that any amount would have been too much was just a compounding factor in a tragedy.

The average cup of coffee has about 95mg of caffeine (found it: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/caffeine/art-20049372). So each of these lemonades she drank was over 4 cups of coffee.

If she was able to miss the labeling, which is reasonable to assume - bc she would she ignore it on purpose? - then it would have been very easy for her to ingest an extreme amount of caffeine in a short period of time, which is what I assume happened.

You used the size of the lemonade to argue its caffeine content was not excessive given the lemonade was larger in volume than a comparable coffee beverage.

But the topic of this chain started with the girl not realizing the drink was caffeinated to begin with.

The context of my question was calling into doubt the relevance of caffeine to volume ratio in defining “excessive” when the underlying issue was accidental consumption due to (alleged) poor product labeling.

Given she had a heart condition, any amount seems to have been “excessive”.

How many people are confusing a large iced coffee with a shot of espresso as a caffeine free beverage?

Saving me and potentially others almost 20mins. Not all heroes.

Man that was trippy. Clicked my inbox and saw your message. Clicked it to reply and it brought the post back up. For the briefest if moments I saw dark blue/almost black and gold then it went right back go basically white. Like the image itself blinked but I have to assume it was my brain briefly interpreting it one way then reverting.

Wtf

Wait is it black and blue in the thumbnail for this post? I forgot how much this messed with my head. I honestly see white and gold.

Totally

Insane? Yes. Unregulated, also yes. But if you remove the specific issues with bitcoin itself (like that it’s almost entirely used for speculation so far) and just look at the numbers you can see it’s not out of line for a brand new medium of exchange that starts trading at essentially zero but has the theoretical potential to be a major currency in world trade to have an almost unfathomable upside.

Mcap at launch: basically zero

“Mcap” of world trade: trillions (quadrillions?)

Depends how early, right? First days/months of bitcoin they were trading for fractions of a penny. What’s the ROI from $.0001 to $60,000? And in only 14yrs rather than 40.