You missed the “and” in the comment you were replying to. They can do fsd or they could do cheap. Not both. Though, to be honest I doubt they can do either.

Because it’ll be true.

Anymore???

Probably played some golf on the moon.

Riiighhtt because you’re sooo busy and soooo important to your job that you can’t take a morning off. Speed awareness course is like 4 hours and you can do over video call. Get a fucking grip.

Or, if you are genuinely so important and busy you must be paid a bomb, so just pay the fine, take the points, pay the bit extra on insurance. Job done.

Or, here’s an idea. Don’t break the mother fucking law in the first place.

“hi boss I need to take a half day holiday on X date, I have to attend a speed awareness course”

"Hey bob, can I swap a shift with you on X date, I’ll work your X Saturday. I’ve got to attend a speed awareness course "

Or if you’re to chicken to tell the truth replace with dentist. Or just throw a sickie.

It’s hardly rocket science.

It only seems to be since the yanks woke up.

Over here if you’re just a bit over they’ll normally put you on a speed awareness course for the first time getting caught.

And I 100% agree on fines being income based. I think some of the Scandinavian countries have done that. I also think there needs to be some kind of catch for the super rich who work the system so they don’t really declare an income. Maybe if your net worth is x times the national average the fine is the greater of either a percentage of your net worth or income.

In the vicinity of camera sites, the pre/post reductions ranged from 8% to 49% for all crashes and 11% to 44% for fatal and serious injury crashes. Compared with controls, the relative improvement in pre/post injury crash proportions ranged from 8% to 50%.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20927736/

I don’t know what the rules are in the USA but over here you should be stopping on amber, not blasting through.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/light-signals-controlling-traffic

Maybe you guys ought to campaign to get the law changed. They used to be grey over here, but pressure was put on the government and how they’re all high vis yellow with loads of warnings before them.

Sucks to be whenever you are I guess. I’m used to that way they work where I live.

Fixed speed camera housings located within an area of street or highway lighting should be coloured yellow either by painting both the front and back of the housing or covering both the front and back of the housing with retroreflective sheeting. In an area not covered by street or highway lighting, the speed camera housing should be treated with yellow retroreflective sheeting.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a819278e5274a2e87dbe588/dft-circular-0107.pdf

I mean I don’t know how you could think it wouldn’t be. Well signposted camera will help you pay more attention to your speed on the slope, it’s woods so presumably animals could run out at you.

If you can’t see a bright fucking yellow speed camera, and haven’t been paying attention to the ten dozen signed, then that’s 100% on you.

I don’t think anyone has ever received a speeding fine from a speed camera who was going at the speed limit.

Stop being a cunt and think of others road safety.

Except they do make it safer and because there’s always tonnes of signs around them you don’t get the brake slamming. They act as a deterrent. Plus accidents at lower speeds are inherently less dangerous.

Mobile speed traps, however, are a definite revenue boost.

So you’re going to go back on the death (and injury) part now that it has been pointed out that the study you linked was only about the collisions. And itself points research that shows that there is a reduction in death (and injury).

Right?

1. if you drive at the speed limit you won’t have a problem

2. the speed camera will be well signposted (car on the left so this is the UK) while it’s not a legal requirement that they have signposts I’ve never come across a fixed camera that isn’t

3. If you don’t break the law you won’t have a problem

4. the camera is painted bright yellow for visibility

5. once again for the those at the back who are hard of thinking: don’t speed and you won’t get fined

6. usually for first time offences if you’re just a bit over the limit you’ll get the option of a speed awareness course.

7. You’ve probably come to expect odd numbered points to tell you to not break the law by now, so I’ll mix it up: if you get caught breaking the law and get a slap on the wrist, don’t keep breaking the law.

I do agree though that the fining structure should be reformed, it should be a percentage of income with some provision in place so the super rich can’t get out of paying their appropriate share too.

Road safety is bad mmkay

4% is around the lizardman constant.

Very strange. It doesn’t work. I shared directly from the f-droid client droid-ify

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/index.html