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Cake day: August 3rd, 2023

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  • With absolute honesty, I have to say I’ve not read the article just the headline and the first paragraph.

    I know far too many servicemen and servicewomen who came out mentally and physically damaged while watching their peers die. (It sucks but this day is to recognize and honor that)

    A good portion of them will agree with you on principal. They are the same people that will say this day is about those they lost who are not military in service to our country as well as those were military.

    If you’re in a hostile situation and you have your teams back, you have your teams back. It doesn’t matter what your role is.

    If your argument is to include people who are not in the line of fire, or are in a hostile area, this is not the day to make that argument. That comes off incredibly tasteless and insulting to those who are struggling with survivors guilt, 10, 20 and even 30 years after the fact.





  • Then you should have said that in your original response.

    Like it was said, if you had originally read the article or look into it before commenting you would know they already got their cars back. Meaning your staunch stands that they don’t get their stuff back is false.

    Even if you had done a simple Wikipedia search you would understand that there is a hearing. That means you can fight it and get your stuff back. A preponderance of evidence is required for civil asset forfeiture.

    The Supreme Court case is about the intentional delay of the hearing for civil asset forfeiture. So that means they can represent themselves or pay for legal counsel to get their stuff back in a reasonable time. (Due process, fifth and 14th amendment. The government cannot deprive anyone of life liberty or property.) clearly we are talking about property here.

    Don’t get me wrong civil asset forfeiture should not exist, and is an abomination to our rights. However, you need to accept that you were wrong with your comment towards Chestnut for giving a simplified explanation of what the root caused for the case was.


  • You do realize the original comment was simply describing the reason for the lawsuit and you commented “I think you are confused.”

    From the article “Ms. Culley and Ms. Sutton filed class actions in federal court saying that they should have been afforded prompt interim hearings to argue…”

    They are literally saying they wanted to be able to streamline this process and get their stuff back faster. Explaining the difference between impounding and civil forfeiture doesn’t change the content of the article. The original comment was accurate in describing what the article was about.







  • I was originally going to point out that this guy pleaded guilty but really no need because I can’t argue against your point at all.

    That’s a very well put point. I didn’t care about this guy because I was picturing my kid as the victim. (That’s why parents shouldn’t have anything to do with punishing the convict)

    I am against capitol punishment on principle. This article just hit me wrong or right depending on how you view it.

    I did not think about how these laws can be used as tools to punish “others” especially in states that are or have started criminalizing anything near LGBT. Thanks for the good point.