Perfect example of this is california senate races and the jungle primaries. Establishment democrats help boost the republican so the head to head wont Schiff vs Porter.

I’m 13 and I think you’re right. What are primaries btw?

I would highly encourage people to look at the motives of the OKC bombing committed by Timothy McVeigh. Gun culture, etc. It’s been a long evolution of similar ideas. What’s scares me though is these ideas becoming normalized and mainstream. Best exemplified by MAGA embracing the big lie and all the shit related to J6th.

Lol sure thing. I’m not making a statement on ideology at all. Just your maturity on expecting a right now solution and the futility of your method of protest voting.

So you’re not voting? Or are you for some hack grifter like West?

I was speaking down ballot or during another potus election cycle. I obviously didnt mean to, literally, save that energy for hypothetical elections that would have already happened.

Also, not having a POTUS primary when there is no challenger and an incumbent isn’t as big of a deal. Tactically, it’s just bad optics with no tangible benefit. It’s definitely something immature people pout about though.

My bigger point is. I agree with the opinion being communicated but there is no pathway to action on those ideas right now. That energy is for the primaries but its fighting yesterday’s battles. I’m not defending the DNC but its Biden vs Trump, thats just reality. Time to clean your diaper.

So what message do you think your actually sending?

OK, I remember being 19 lol

OK, so you think Trump will bring peace to Isreal. Got it.

Save that energy for the primaries.

What do you think Trump will do differently?

If you’re a single issue voter and still voting for the worst of those two options you’re a baffoon.

FDR says what?

Not saying I take everything Biden says at face value but he has stated that he wouldn’t be running if Trump wasn’t. I think there is sound rationale behind it though. Trump just flings shit all over everything, Biden has already been through it. Why expose a promising young candidate to that? Next election cycle the GOP primary candidates are going to be trying to out trump and whoever is going to be the dem candidate will be looking that much better because of the shit the GOP smeared all over themselves.

The point I’m making is more than a little devils advocate though. Dems need to address the enthusiasm gap, it seems like theyre going to be leaning on the grassroots movement from pro-choice groups. Fingers crossed it’s effective.

It’s hilarious what can be accomplished with a quick search. It took me less than 3 seconds to find more than 5 different accusations of antisemitism.

Who was denied tenure. His celebrity vs his accomplishments is way out of whack. That’s an obvious sign of grifter. Jordan Peterson was a professor.

An accomplished scholar should have policy ideas that are deeper than that.

He’s a legend in his own mind, and the handful of people gullible enough to believe him.

My dad loves this joker, cus my dad is an embarrassed trump supporter. One grift to the next for him.

The only thing I could find on West saying about his “plan” for Ukraine is “I would pull back on the U.S. military support.” And call for a ceasefire, all while calling himself a “jazzman of American politics” and making sure everyone recognizes the historical context of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. He specifically mentioned Alexander the Great and the Cuban missle crises.

So, withdrawaling US support while calling for an immediate ceasefire isn’t what you would call “Ukraine should give up.”… I disagree. How do you characterize west’s position?

https://www.democracynow.org/2023/6/7/cornel_west_2024

There’s nothing that I can say to disprove those points. I do have to say that Bernie gaining as much popularity as he did let’s me see the light at the end of the tunnel. I’m pushing 40, always been very left. 1st primary I voted for Dennis Kucinich. Seeing someone with the same talking points and advocate for, generally, the same overall policy agenda get as much mainstream traction as Bernie has does inspire some optimism. Voter turnout in the primaries is so huge, I would also like to see the Dems ditch the EC model for their primaries as well. Biden got elected on the backs of Southern black votes (holdover good will from him being Obamas VP) and that caused him to win deep red states that he would never win in the general. Though I’m hoping Georgia turning blue wasn’t an anomaly.

100% this is why I’m hoping for community service. Done in a very public facing way. Putting a near 80 year old on jail for a first time offense would show bias. However, him show contempt for the justice system and his instance of making a spectacle of the entire process should be a major consideration. Have him, legit, in a reflective vest picking up trash, would be considered a light sentence if you consider the range of punishments. It would definitely, attempt, to force some agenda of teaching humbleness. Hearing his complaints, or his supporters, saying that he’s too old for that type of work would take so much wind out of the sails out of old Joe narrative.

Maybe I’m just rationalizing for my popcorn motives though lol