I understood. My point was that there is no similar link related to the autocratic regime of Bolsonaro. Autocrats can often be defeated electorally even once they gain power. I think the situation in the US is closer to Balsonaro in Brazil than Hitler in Germany.

Yeah, Germany is a model worth considering, but so is Brazil. Autocrats aren’t consistently capable of cementing their rule. Do what works for you, but I intend to stay and fight.

Until the next election is cancelled, I will be working under the assumption that it will happen. Fuck that defeatist crap.

When it comes to this issue, you can’t really say that Trump is that much worse. Either way Gaza and the West Bank were heading to oblivion. Rhetoric aside, there is no evidence that Harris would have ever stood up to Israel in any meaningful way.

There is always a bunch of relevant factors in the outcome of a national election. It’s the job of the candidate to overcome those hurdles. If they don’t, then they were the wrong candidate. It’s not about blame, it’s about how we do better next time.

I’d much prefer that Harris won, but it does warm my heart a bit that the Democratic establishment got fucked for their manipulation of the 2020 primary and subsequent forcing of a Harris run. If we are talking blame, then that’s where it belongs. Fuck the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the DNC corporate lineup.

Then the next time a MAGA-esque Republican came along, which would probably be in 2028 or 32 they’d feel free to completely take the gloves off.

And you think letting treason pass with no consequences isn’t also sending a message?

The Republicans have no shame and aren’t waiting for the Democrats to strike first. Take away one rationalization and they will just manufacture another.

It’s happened before. You have to go all the way back to FDR, but it happened.

You can’t judge primary races like that. The final spread is irrelevant because of how the votes are spread out. The media calls it long before half the country has even voted, then the remaining votes always avalanche to the presumed winner.

Not sure why this applies to what I said, but my few Republican friends and family are uncomfortably aware of what I think about their politics.

Biden undermined democracy by preventing a proper primary from taking place. The voters never got to nominate a candidate, and the establishment thrust a candidate on them that had already been rejected in a previous primary. That’s the establishment’s fault, and Biden if the face of the Democratic establishment.

Dems are clearly better on economic issues as well. Not nearly good enough, but better. The problem is that they will only go so far, and they won’t talk about it, out of fear of angering their wealthy patrons.

Your right. The anti-establishment mood in this country and abroad has been building for decades. Americans have never voted based on foreign policy unless that foreign policy is directly impacting them.

Kamala had a billion dollars. Progressives have a deep ecosystem of independent media that establishment Democrats undermine at every opportunity. Democrats were hand in hand with Republicans in pushing social media “reforms” that today promote media like FOX News as trustworthy over progressive media sources. The Democrats create their own weakness.

It’s sheer lunacy in today’s world, but it also happens to be a feature for the qon/Republican agenda.

Redundant statements are redundant.

Does it though? Trump cares about his crowd sizes. He doesn’t give a fuck that people think he abuses women. He wears that shit like a badge of honor. He proclaims his corruption loudly and his fans think it makes him shrewd. I honestly can’t imagine what Putin has on him that would matter. Maybe a picture of his tiny… hands, but he’d just claim it was faked.

They don’t have the numbers to pass an ammendment. They will just use the Supreme Court to “interpret” the constitution into oblivion.

Trump has the Supreme Court, the Senate, and almost certainly the House. All three will do as they are told. If the millitary refuses illegal orders, I think those orders will be made legal. Either that, or he will be allowed to replace military leadership.

So, just curious,what’s your plan to replace the voters? Are you just bitching, or does this lead somewhere? It seems to me that even if the voters are the problem, we need candidates capable of inspiring them to act differently.

That’s totally fair, but I think that serious issues with Second Thought’s philosophy should be understood when viewing any of his material.

I also wasn’t talking about Democrats failing to get things done. That’s a small part of it, but it’s mostly about who they are, how they message, and who they listen to. If the Democrats achieved everything they set out to do, I seriously doubt the situation with income inequality would be any better. In fact, Democratic initiatives have often made it significantly worse.

I think we all benefited from Bernie’s runs in 2016 and 2020 resulting in a marked change to Democratic party philosophy, but it’s not nearly the change the Democrats needed to be able to effectively message in the world we live in.

https://youtu.be/-vjnOc5UBbU?si=1BSAWSwJhUSyDDe5