Does this mean it’s still possible that a poop machete or poop katana is viable?

True, but they’re not a bad person for lying to you.

Right, they were trying to not die. That is what everybody will do in this scenario. That’s the kind of thing that happens when you murder somebody, the victim is generally opposed to your plan, and so they typically do not do as you wish. An execution that plans to have the victim of it go along with the plan is simply idiotic.

Seems like a pretty small price to pay to prevent murder. In fact, I’d go so far as to say you’re a bad person if you’re not willing to pay that price.

If a natural human response messes up your execution, you should absolutely blame the method.

You act like running a country is hard. The only hard part of running America is hiding all your bribes.

Ahh, 2 tons of duck beaks actually aren’t heavy enough, actually

What if you’re right though? Isn’t then a perfectly good time to lie? If you know for sure that the death penalty is evil (which doesn’t seem too big a leap given the facts), then it’s wrong not to lie to people to get them to stop it. Otherwise you’d be saying that your own morality outweighs the humanity of others. If it results in no death penalty, it was a good action. People act like the ends aren’t justifying the means in 99.99% of cases. It is notable specifically when the ends do not justify the means. If the ends are preventing murder, and the means is lying, there is no question whether lying is justified.

All wars are not genocide, but this one clearly is. Israel directly controls the number of calories going into gaza, with the goal of starvation. They have blown up every single hospital in Gaza, and prevent them leaving Gaza for treatment. They refer to them as beasts, and openly stated they want to kill every single one of them. THAT ain’t no regular ass war.

I would certainly call your example genocide, assuming America went about it the usual way. Netanyahu wants Palestine to be Israel, nothing all that complicated.

One does not in any way have to recognize the geopolitical lens people view Israel through. There are lenses that present it as a genocidal state, and there are lies. It’s a classic “Id agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong”.

Where that lens starts to matter is in our reaction to Americans who are not enlightened. Certainly merely repeating the propaganda you heard on the news doesn’t make you pro genocide, but we still have to demand Americans think critically about it. Because the fact is, it IS a genocide, and as Americans we bear significant fault for it collectively.

They are very different, and if this was just a war I wouldn’t care. Israel is the aggressor in this, the idea that this has to do with the defense of Israel is a vicious lie intended to justify genocide. Theoretical people do not matter compared to real people. The foreign policy decision for anybody that isnt genocidalis trivially easy: stop doing a genocide.

Most of America supports Palestine. You only think that because the media loves to use it as a scapegoat. And regardless, who said anything about America? All we have to do is sit down and shut up. Iran can easily handle the Israel situation itself. If America joined in it would be purely for capitalist’s opportunism.

Israel is already doing a genocide. I’d rather the genociders get hurt than innocents. Though there is zero reason to think Iran would actually genocide anyone. Like, that whole idea is very much a bridge we will cross when we come to it.

Why would it be horrible for Iran to go to war with Israel? It wasn’t horrible when Russia, UK and USA went to war with Germany. Same situation.

Bro the US used their veto in the UN to prevent the demand for a ceasefire passing. Literally only USA and Israel voted against. The US is the most powerful country in the world for now, you’d be hard pressed to find an arena of politics they DONT have immense power over. Certainly they have power over the genocides their allies do.

No, let’s not do whataboutism. I agree that what trump did was bad, but trump is not the subject right now.

1: Why does it matter when he did the bad thing? Neither trump nor Biden has sexually assaulted someone in the last 20 years or so, do those events not matter somehow? Can we not judge Biden on his time as VP then either?

2. If a president is corrupt, we should impeach him. Any law that prevents that is a bad law. Laws exist to help us, we do not exist to prop up laws. I think you’re falling victim to a classic lib fallacy, assuming that whatever “the system” puts out must be correct, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. The system is clearly broken, and thus, any argument based on what the law currently is is not valid.

I definitely responded to what you meant originally, even if you think it doesn’t make sense as a reply. Why are they pursuing war when they’re outmatched? Because it’s literally the only option when dealing with genocidal states. What other clarification could you need? Apologies if I gave you too much credit towards having opinions that make sense though.

But it’s clearly very unethical, and not something a president should be doing. So if he did, that’s a big deal.

Whats the propaganda?

You’re acting as if Diplomacy is an option. It’s not. Genocidal states do not respond to Diplomacy. They only respond to bloodshed and slaughter. Did the Nazis come to the table in good faith while they were genociding? No? Then why do you think Israel is any different?

Israel is never going to respond to Diplomacy. That’s not how genocidal states operate.