Roundcat

Several Ohio Republican lawmakers are proposing to strip courts of the authority to review cases related to implementing the newly passed Issue 1 abortion amendment.

In a statement released Thursday, four GOP lawmakers claimed without evidence that there was “foreign election interference” in the vote to pass Issue 1, and threatened to block the ability of courts to interpret the new constitutional amendment.

“To prevent mischief by pro-abortion courts, Ohio legislators will consider removing jurisdiction from the judiciary over this ambiguous ballot initiative,” the lawmakers said. “The Ohio legislature alone will consider what, if any, modifications to make to existing laws based on public hearings and input from legal experts on both sides.”

Issue 1 passed Tuesday with 57 percent of the vote. It creates a constitutional right to reproductive freedom in the state, which protects decisions on contraception, fertility treatment, continuing a pregnancy, miscarriage care and abortion up to the point of fetal viability.

It allows the state to prohibit abortion after fetal viability, which is generally between 22 and 24 weeks into pregnancy, except when necessary to protect the life or health of the mother.

But Republicans in the General Assembly have vowed to fight the measure.

“Issue 1 doesn’t repeal a single Ohio law, in fact, it doesn’t even mention one,” state Rep. Bill Dean said in Thursday’s statement. “The amendment’s language is dangerously vague and unconstrained, and can be weaponized to attack parental rights or defend rapists, pedophiles, and human traffickers.”

Ohio’s six-week abortion ban that was signed into law by Gov. Mike DeWine ® in 2019 contains no exceptions for rape or incest. It is currently tied up in court but could have taken effect if Issue 1 failed.

In a separate statement, Senate President Matt Huffman ® said the measure’s passage was “just the beginning of a revolving door of ballot campaigns to repeal or replace Issue 1.”

Issue 1 will take effect in December, but it won’t be implemented until courts apply the new constitutional standard to abortion-related lawsuits, most notably the one challenging the current ban.

The Republican-majority Ohio Supreme Court is the ultimate authority in reviewing laws to determine if they align with the state constitution.

“It is very important that we see the new constitution be upheld,” said Lauren Blauvelt, co-chair of Ohioans United for Reproductive Rights. “So all of us who have been continuing to fight litigation … will continue to work together to ensure that the restrictions and bans that are currently in place are no longer in place.”

On the other side, Ohio House Democrats announced Thursday a law to repeal various existing laws that directly or indirectly restrict abortion care in Ohio. But Republicans hold strong majorities in both chambers of the General Assembly, so passage is an uphill fight.

When authoritarians don't fear consequences, there's is no limit to what they are willing to commit.

Dr. King was killed so people could put words in his mouth.

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I have nothing to hide. I’m a dumb irresponsible formerly conservative queer person who is still learning and who says stupid shit all the time, some of it I even come to regret. It’s all there for anyone who wants to judge my character. Happy reading. Hopefully your assessment of me is more forgiving than @Hyperi0n.

Well looky there. The Georgia yankee tryin t’tell me howta pronounce his alma mader!

I said I understand why people feel the need to include terms that are already covered by the Q in LGBTQ, but overextending the acronym and including symbols and numbers causes confusion, defeats the purpose of the acronym, and makes people who are not included feel left out.

The whole point of my argument was I think queer should be the go to term cause it covers everyone and leaves nobody out.

What about the word queer implies that?

For advocating for an all inclusive term rather than an acronym that can be chopped to exclude people?

Yeah fuck me I guess.

Don’cha be correctin’ my gammar like some kinduv harvard elite!

Its ma dialect, y’ain’t gonna tell me how t’contract n conjugate!

I think you and I agree on more than we may think. At the end of the day, I want everyone in the community to feel not only included, but unified as well.

I understand the word still hurts others, but so do so many other words commonly used within queer spaces. Gay is still used as a slur and pejorative and yet is still used universally amongst the gay community. I think part of the reclamation process is not only using the word whenever you can, but taking pride in the word as you do it. I do mean it when I say I feel warmth and love in the word queer, and I try to extend that to anyone I use it to describe. If someone within the community expressed discomfort in the word though, I wouldn’t use it for them.

And I think at the end of the day you and I can agree we need an all encompassing term. Something that is inclusive, easy to say, versatile, and if possible, steeped in tradition within the queer community, I personally feel queer is the best candidate for that term, but I would be welcoming to better suggestions.

Maybe we need to own the Q so hard that Qanons will be afraid to identify with it.

There’s a chance that me and my sister might be fleeing to Canada if the situation gets bad enough even in the safer parts of the US, but even then, I know Canada has its own growing problems with fascism, and I’m looking into backup plans if things get bad enough there as well.

At the end of the day though, we may just run out of places we can run to.

I think you made my point for me.

In case you missed it, we don’t need the acronym at all. We already have one word that describes us all in any form that takes, and making an acronym that is overly long and extends/contracts depending on the whims of the writer is overly complicated and defeats the purpose of having an acronym.

Also, funny how you aren’t going to argue the point that the inclusion of two spirits is controversial within the native American community itself, when that was the point you jumped at me with.

Better question: What makes you think they are not included in LGBT or Queer? Also, I know the inclusion of two spirits within the LGBT acronym is contentious with many native Americans as well. It’s why the pride flag with the native American feathers is frowned upon at many queer events.

Hey ya’ll, I know some of you are here on lemmy, and I let me just say…

Ya’ll doing alright? I’ve read recently about a lot of flooding in Hubei and Jingxi provinces, and despite how I may feel about the CCP and all, I want to make sure ya’ll are good.

As a queer person, extending the acronym past what is necessary feels like pandering in the best light, and purposely trying to bait ridicule in the worst. The whole point of LGBT was to include anyone on the spectrum that was gay or trans, and the Q was supposed to include anyone who considers themselves queer, even if they don’t meed those parameters. I can understand wanting to include I because intersex people are often left out of the conversation, and I even understand A because there is a lot of debate even within the LGBTQ community itself as to whether asexuals are considered queer or not. But when you start incorporating numbers, symbols, or extending past 5 letters within the acronym, you are defeating the purpose of having an acronym, creating confusion, baiting ridicule, and even making people not explicitly represented in the acronym feel excluded.

And there is already a single, all encompassing, inclusive, one syllable word that describes the community and all who occupy it: “Queer.” It’s easier to say, remember, and hell, even type if you are typing LGBTQ past 5 letters. But because of it being appropriated and used as a slur, there are many even within the community who are even afraid to utter it, let alone identify with it. Which is a god damned shame there is nothing inherently wrong the word, cause even in its original meaning, it meant someone who was outside the norm or otherworldly, and in literature has been used to describe characters like Gandalf, and characters in Shakespeare.

It describes me without having to explain or justify how or why. It describes how I feel as a person, how others see me, how I interact and relate to others. Its an adjective that can be verbed and adverbed. It’s sharp and provocative, yet also warm and natural, like a forest green. People who have adopted and embraced the word for themselves feel the love within the word, and can extend it to others. And even for those outside the community, those who are brave enough to use it when talking in our defense come off as more decisive and confrontational, than the person who thinks adding another letter or number to the acronym will make them seem more legitimate.

It’s time we stop fearing our word. It’s time we recognize the difference between queer as an insult, and queer as a description of who we are, and we need to extend that to people who are willing to talk about us and our struggles or come to our defense. The word is only as evil as we are willing to reject it, and I will be dead in the ground before I let our word be the domain of queerphobes and bigots.

edit: It’s late and I’m going to bed. Apparently some people think I’m a self hating queer for thinking the acronym should be dropped for an all inclusive term, and so be it. It’s late and I want to get some sleep. And a lot of the people making this argument I know haven’t read past the first paragraph, much less to here. Anything clarification they could want can be found here and in my other posts here. Otherwise, if they are not going to put in the effort to read, I’m not going to put in the effort to respond.

edit 2: I wanted to make a separate inclusion because I have had a chance to sleep and cool off, and I wanted to address some of the more combative posts in my replies: I get it. We as a community suffer attacks constantly, even from within the community, so I understand why so many here are on guard and skeptical of my intentions. And I’ll admit, my post probably could be better written. I’m not exactly the best at articulating my thoughts. But the point of my post is not to exclude anyone from the community, but rather embrace a word that includes everyone. I would like to hear counterpoints to my argument, because maybe what I need is a different perspective on the issue. I would love to hear from people who prefer the acronym, and why they feel it maybe more inclusive. I am a flawed human being with many faults. I grew up in a conservative background, and my life up to this point has been trying to unlearn a lot of that. But I did not write this with the intention of excluding or singling out anyone. Forgive me I have done so.

As someone who grew up conservative in a conservative part of the country, conservative pop culture was always there, it was just always part of regular pop culture.

Country music has always been the genre of choice for conservative messaging, there have always been conservative leaning comedies that have poked fun at liberals and “politcally correct” culture (what we now call woke.) Hell even within “liberal” media, conservatives would often be given a neutral spotlight among liberals. There was a whole episode of Family Guy dedicated to Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly has been featured everywhere from Marvel movies to television cameos, and South Park even still gives conservative viewpoints a positive or neutral light. Not to mention there was a boom of Christian movies during the 2010s, conservative writers have always been prominent on the NYT best sellers in books, and certain sports and event like Nascar, Football, and MMA have plenty of outspoken conservatives that are massively popular and still have strong careers and followings.

To believe that conservative media is now starting to breach its way into the mainstream is to believe the propaganda that many conservatives push in that American pop culture is inherently liberal or leftist.

It reflects a lack of remorse, which depending on how the evidence stacks up, could come back to bite them too.

They look happy because they are sure they did nothing wrong, or that even if they did do something highly treasonous, they are not the least bit sorry for it.

QWASO!