the difference is that discussions about robocop are exclusively about the original
if youre convinced the wolfenstein and doom reboots have the same impact and relevance as robocop (2014) youre entirely allowed to stay that way, im not gonna try and shake you out of it
I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.
that makes sense, especially since Doom eternal is in fact still developed by id
Wolfenstein and Doom have both reached significantly more people since they got adopted by zenimax though, so most folks who actually played the games will have probably gotten introduced to them as Bethesda published games
“Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW),
lol ok
Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn’t yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!
the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.
i mean sure, but that also doesnt matter to the point i was making
More people might be playing the new ones NOW
which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom
i assumed they were talking about the bethesda published reboots, what with them being significantly more popular than the earlier games
doom and Wolfenstein are published by bethesda
what does that even mean? ‘ok he supports a genocidal ethnostate, but its only cause of power projection in the middleeast’
sorry, but arent the crimes of their fathers the sole basis for our worshipping them, allowing tbem political power and sending the pricks millions upon millions of tax payer pounds?
you dont reckon its a little disingenuous to complain about people shitting on their heritage when said heritage is the entire argument for their existence
i actively want the UKs overseas influence to wane
i dont think that one comes from white people
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“i had to go through miserable bullshit so you have to too” is not doing what you think its doing
i mean, with the amount of effort this took even a single quick glance resulting in a miss would be a pretty big win
its a silly idea but theres hardly any reason not to try it
not to mention that its probably still pretty effective in low visibility situations
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I do not see compulsory military service as forced labour, not by a long shot.
performing labour or 6 months of jail does sound completely unforced
A country that offers equal rights, universal healthcare and free education for all citizens, amongst many other tax-paid services.
i am so glad that you have all of that
If you do not see your own country worth serving, I feel sad for you
i said nothing about whether i see my own country as worth serving, but your pity is appreciated
I would gladly give my life to protect mine
and youll continue to have the option to do so regardless of whether your government continues to threaten its citizens into doing so
@oakey66@lemmy.world raised the fair point that opposing a weapons deal is not the same as opposing funding
he’s been very weak on the ceasefire demand up until very recently.
this isnt relevant to whether sanders has pushed for blocking funding to israel
he’s talked about blocking arm sales
blocking arms sales not being the same as blocking funding is fair, however:
He has not called for an end to the sending of money to Israel
is at least misrepresentative
even if it was in response to specific bills as opposed to a complete and total cut, he has explicitly spoken out against bills funding israel, and saying ‘the United States should not be complicit in (the actions of Israel)’ in oplosition to a specific bill is still hard to read as anything but a call to cut funding of israel in general
The issue is you’re confusing compulsory labour with forced labour.
seems like a you problem, what with you talking about compulsory labour while i explicitly said forced labour
If you don’t do conscription or civil service work (the alternative option) the consequences are a fine, or jail.
“youre not forced to do it, you just get tossed in jail if you dont do it”
In countries at high risk of conflict (eg Taiwan), it’s practically required for their continued short-term existence.
if a country can only motivate its people to actually protect said country by threatening them into doing so, it didnt actually deserve protection
and just stops people discussing the actual pros and cons of the practice.
good, i do not want people discussing the actual pros of slavery
im assuming you mean nuanced
me not agreeing with you doesnt mean i didnt consider your perspective, and saying ‘well surely not all forced labour is slavery’ isnt nuance
thats great
the reboot is still probably most fans entry point to the franchise and frame of reference for discussing it, especially during a discussion about Bethesda
that is not any kind of dig at the older games, the quality of them is entirely irrelevant to the point i was making
you dont need to come to the defense of them, especially by venting about games that i also do not care about