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  • Re the first point, that’s an issue with your system of democracy, (I agree that it’s stupid and outdated) again not an issue with Hilary herself.

    I’m afraid I have to disagree with your second point, I think we fundamentally disagree on what democracy is. Electees are there to serve the people who vote them in, if the minority of those people want change then they need to convince the electorate, not the candidates.

    For context, I think we probably align quite closely politically, I just feel your expectations are misplaced.


  • Not at all correct, I’m trying to establish whether you believe Hilary deliberately got trump elected, or whether she screwed up. You seem to be avoiding the answer because it doesn’t fit your narrative, made even clearer by your choice to cut out the key part of my question when paraphrasing. If you aren’t open to a legitimate discussion then there isn’t much point in continuing.

    (Paraphrasing, ignoring questions to make your own point etc see the exact traits I see and hate in the right, usually I can have proper honest conversations with fellow lefties so I have to admit I was surprised by your tactics here)




  • Do you believe that she actively helped trump over herself, or that she messed up? It’s so much easier with hindsight…in essence you’re making the “the west is responsible for ww2” argument, sure they messed up with the restrictions put on Germany after WW1, but WW2 wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t for a bunch of tyrants…

    So many people seem to think they have a right to the perfect candidate for them, but democracy is about the best compromise for the masses. (In reply to some of your other comments on this thread)