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Cake day: August 17th, 2023

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  • I’m certainly no legal expert, but I think it’s the rights of the family that are being infringed upon. I don’t know a thing about the Carlins specific situation, but I think it’s customary for a famous person to leave control of their “intellectual property”, use of their likeness and whatever else, to their next of kin or a trusted friend or someone. And it sounds like the family have those rights, because they’re looking into “what their rights are” (which sounds a lot like “legal options” to me).

    I personally think it’s in bad taste specifically BECAUSE the person is deceased - they can’t make the call and go “yeah go ahead” or “I don’t like this, please stop”. Kind of like how someone can’t consent to sex if they’re unconscious (weird parallel, I know).

    I feel like the YouTubers are assuming Carlin’s consent, when they don’t really have it. If they’d asked his family, they could have maybe had it. But instead they decided to just go ahead and hope that they can get away with it.

    I think Carlin’s daughter has every right to be pissed about not getting asked for her permission, especially if she owns the rights to his material.


  • Not OP but for me, I think it pivots on the permission of those who knew the comedian best and who might be hurt the most by not asking.

    Whether AI writes the jokes, some 3rd party, or the comedian themself did, does the family want that out there, or would it be painful for Robin Williams’ family (remember that he killed himself) to watch a computer ape Williams’ comedy? If you’ve had a loved one pass away, would you want to be asked before someone made an AI of them performing jokes? And would it make it better or worse if the AI did an inferior job of replicating the original person?

    Even if Carlin had planned a show, if the wishes of the family were that it be performed by Carlin himself or nobody, then I don’t think anyone had the right to turn an AI loose on the material to “give it a shot”.

    Beyond that, I wonder if they have the legal right to use Carlin’s likeness, mannerisms, etc.










  • I personally think this is the biggest reason. MY company just went “well, guess we’ll sell 2/3 of our campus and let someone else use that space, we sure don’t need it any more”… but I think a lot of businesses are stuck with their lease and struggling to make the square footage pay for itself.

    I can’t look for a source right now (I’m on the clock at my WFH job) but I thought there was evidence that hedge funds and investment houses had invested in commercial real estate, like they invested in residential real estate in the 2000’s (which ultimately resulted in the “sub-prime mortgage crisis”)… and that THEY are really the ones pushing for RTO, trying to avoid another crash when their investments tank because nobody wants to own commercial real estate any more and starts looking to sell it off.

    But take that with a big grain of salt, because I can’t cite a source ATM!