Death penalty through crucifiction should be implemented in these cases.

And why should i care what American lawyers think? Like i said, it’s a victimless crime if one is a selfish individualist liberal who cares only for themselves, and not society as a whole, so Americans and American lawyers especially.

Please cite your source on all people believing the definition of the word being “selfish individuals”.

What? I said selfish individualists, and that is what they are, people that put their own benefit and enjoyment before the good of their society, otherwise they wouldn’t be arguing for recreational drugs, as there is no collectivist argument for them, only individualist ones.

Citation needed.

Literally look anywhere outside of the West, you wont see many people taking Western style slacking off as a granted.

So victimless. That’s the definition.

Only to a selfish individualist who puts his one gain before the good of everyone else.

Is it? It is it just reasonable to realize that millions of years of mamillian evolution have led to leisure as normal a part of the species.

Literally only in the opulent West and in the last few decades is it considered normal for one to slack off doing absolutely nothing usefull for the better part of the day.

Increased brain activity in itself isn’t a benefit, not to mention relying on drugs to keep yourself going is the opposite of healthy. There are perfectly healthy ways to keep one’s brain activity up, exercise, healthy diet, enough sleep and so on.

I did say that anyone not addicted wouldn’t procure substances illegally, not everyone with a drug problem seeks medical help you know.

The use of drugs is nominally victimless.

It is not, society itself is the victim as the drug user is wasting their potential and time on drugs instead of something productive. Not to mention the wasted effort and resources on producing the drugs and dealing with trouble users.

Many leisure activities serve no immediate purpose other than relaxation.

And many such activities ultimately are harmfull and defending them is a result of one’s lack of self-discipline and lazyness.

I see you’ve ignored the socialization aspect of recreational drugs and their effects on the various arts too.

Both unnecessary, if one needs drugs to socialize, they need to seek medical help.

Uppers increase brain activity.

And typically have detrimental effects on the individual. There are risks and no benefits, therefor, ban.

Most recreational activies are productive and serve a purpose other than mindless pleasure, be it reading, exercising, creative projects or other such activites. Recreational drug use serves no such purpose and only exists to numb one’s mind from the outside world, and likely their troubles, this fact just is covered by pretty words about “relaxation” and such.

Banning a substance (with strategic eye of course, for example a total immediate ban on alcohol would cause more problems than it would solve, a incremental ban is better in this case) that complements this behaviour also discourages this behaviour, as no-one who isn’t addicted to the substance will take the risk of procuring it illegally. And the ones who are addicted obviously require medical care.

The decrease of organised crime in drug trade is no argument, one could argue that murder should be legal since the amount of convicted murderers goes down if it is legalised. Not to mention how the ban on certain drugs in America isn’t designed to lower the usage of drugs to begin with, rather simply profit off it in various ways.

If you want to go down that road, then every classification is arbitrary as there is no definition of drugs sent down from the heavens. In any case this is just sophistry, call it what you want, it is irrelevant. The point still stands, it is a heavily mind altering substance that has no benefits when used recreationally (this is the point of the word recreational), and as such must be banned.

That is an arbitrary classification. Call it what you want, it still is a substance that heavily alters one’s mind and has no real use outside of medical use, and as such must be banned outside of medical use. There is no argument for recreational drugs of any sort, and before you say it, yes this applies to alcohol too.

If religion is the opium of the masses, i wonder what actual drugs are…

Yes i agree

America, land of degenerates