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Whether a nation or people is sovereign or not is a statement of reality, and part of sovereignty is whether other sovereign countries are able to vouch for your sovereignty. Just formally acknowledging your sovereignty like having an embassy is the bare minimum, but there’s more like defense treaties, economic deals, and joining organizations. At the end of the day, there will be other countries and entities that will seek to challenge and destroy a country’s sovereignty and unless you have a fleet of Gundams, you’ll need other countries to rush to your defense when it’s challenged. Nobody can do it alone.

If you’re talking about cases like the ROC being in the UN instead of the PRC even though the PRC is de facto far larger than the ROC, remember that the UN isn’t an immutable organization. There’s nothing stopping the ROC from denouncing the UN as a sham organization after getting kicked out and starting their own rival organization called the League of United Nations or something and getting other countries to cosign to this new organization. There’s nothing stopping the ROC from campaigning their allies (ie the West and various Western vassals) to leave the UN and join the LUN. But for obvious reasons, a LUN would never happen because the ROC doesn’t have many allies. Most countries, including its so-called allies, see Taiwan as a US unsinkable aircraft carrier that’ll inevitably be reunited with the Mainland, whether peacefully or by force, or be completely destroyed in the process of a US-China war.

How do you go from there - economic dependence and decreasing recognition - to not being self sovereign? They run a government and have elections. As another hexbear pointed out

At a basic level, to be a sovereign country is for the people of that country to have the ability to determine their own collective destiny. Now, sovereignty is not a simple binary but a scale since powerful countries have the potential for greater influence than smaller countries who must fight against the influence of larger countries.

Vietnam has sovereignty. It has an independent military that is battle-tested through winning numerous wars against its neighbors and the US, it has a seat within the UN where it can lobby its interest before a global body of nations, it has international treaties with numerous countries and is free to sign more or back away from treaties if it’s in its geopolitical interests, it is part of many international organizations like ASEAN, and it has an extremely savvy ruling party who knows how to play off the blocs against each other for Vietnam’s benefit. It’s even taking steps to be completely food independent so they won’t get fucked over by sanctions and climate change. The only real mark against their sovereignty is the PRC (and ROC) presence in the SCS.

Taiwan, in contrast, has little to no sovereignty. Its military is completely dependent on the US. If it wasn’t for the 7th Fleet constantly bailing out Taiwan, Taiwan would’ve long since been reunited with the Mainland. It has no seat in the UN. A grand total of 12 UN states, many of them Pacific islands that Taiwan constantly bribes for their continued recognition, plus Vatican City recognizes Taiwan. Because Taiwan is not a UN state, it cannot belong to a lot of organizations. Just a few days ago, Taiwan got expelled from the Central American Parliament. The Central American Parliament isn’t some hugely important organization and that’s part of the point. Taiwan has already been shut out of important organizations like the UN and the WHO and now they’re even being shut out of even less important ones. Taiwan has to compete in the Olympics under the humiliating title “Chinese Taipei” and instead of boycotting the Olympics, they choose to compete with that humiliating title, further cementing their inability to move beyond what the PRC and the rest of the world has placed them in. Neither the KMT and nor the DPP are pursuing policies that would bolster Taiwan’s little sovereignty, with the KMT thinking if they can kiss the PRC ass enough times, the PRC won’t invade Taiwan and with the DPP thinking if they can lick Uncle Sam’s boots enough times, the US would save Taiwan and not abandon them like the US did with Afghanistan. Taiwan is also overly dependent on trade with the PRC and in general, Taiwan’s economy is intertwined with the PRC, meaning if the PRC does shit like temporary ban some Taiwanese imports, the entire economy feels the strain.

This is a country that’s economically dependent on one country and militarily dependent on another country. This is not a sovereign country. This is a pawn that’s being played by two countries that are belligerent with each other.

Taiwan is completely economically dependent on the Mainland and is recognized by an ever shrinking pool of nations?

Taiwan does not view itself as a soverign nation, but for most practical purposes it is one.

Being a sovereign nation is when you don’t have a seat in the UN and most sovereign nations refuse to recognize you as an independent nation.

Nobody in SEA likes Taiwan. It doesn’t help that Taiwan has two naval bases in the South China Sea and always sides with the PRC against the rest of SEA over the SCS, mostly using the justification of “acktually the SCS is part of Chinese naval waters and we’re officially called the Republic of China, so this is Taiwanese naval waters btw since we’re officially called the Republic of China.”

What tankie tears are you referring to?

More like tears of laughter lol

Putin got tired of getting outranked by Prigo in the Chad-Cuck power ranking.

Press X to doubt.

India ramping up trade in oil and gas with Russia while refusing to even offer the most milquetoast condemnation of Russia’s invasion on the world stage haven’t clued you in?

Well, neither is Taiwan, but that doesn’t stop people like you from constantly whining about it.

We’re talking about potentially getting rid of Putin’s regime and it’s being done without sending any of our troops to die.

The people surrounding Putin who are most likely to replace him are hardliners who think Kiev should be glassed. Part of the motivation behind the Wagner mutiny is Prigo thinking Shoigu isn’t going hard enough in Ukraine. Contrary to liberal bots who only listen to what CNN tells them, it’s good for everyone involved that the Wagner mutiny was completely deflated. There wouldn’t be much of a Ukraine left if Prigo was in charge, and Prigo is not the only one.

Was Is Elon Musk Full Of Shit About Free Speech???

Yes, next question.

It has been extremely obvious to everyone who isn’t an incredulous lib (ie the ledditor refugees from lemm.ee et al) that the US doesn’t actually give a shit about Ukraine and is more than happen to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian. Why else would the US constantly ship overpriced wunderwaffen that the Ukrainians can barely use due to lack of training time while at the same time gobbling up Ukrainian state assets? And as we saw with how Afghanistan ended, the US will inevitably pull support, most likely because of Taiwan, and the Ukrainian war effort will collapse overnight just like Afghanistan imploded as soon as the US left the country.

The US has to fight multiple fronts against its peer adversaries as well as not-quite peer adversaries. Just recently, there’s a coup in Niger with crowds of Nigeriens waving Russian flags cheering the coup leaders. While Western MSM underreport the average Nigeriens’ heartfelt desire to kick out the French and overexaggerate Russia’s involvement per usual, an anti-France alliance is forming in the Sahel, and Putin has launched a charm offensive courting African leaders. This is the formation of another front between the West and Russia, and the US will funnel resources away from Ukraine and towards various jihadist and separatist groups like Boko Haram in order to destabilize West Africa.

Ukraine isn’t so exceptional that the US will be willing to abandon a front and lose say Taiwan for the sake of Ukraine. And from MSM reporting about the failed counteroffensive, we’re close to the “US cutting their loses and leaving their allies out to dry while Hexbears repeat that quote from Kissinger” stage.

Putin isn’t going to end the invasion because some people from some obscure Reddit clone said so.

what’s the alternative for the Ukrainians here?

Not shelling the Donbass for the past 8 years for one. That was them fucking around and the Russian invasion is them finding out.

Still mad that you got banned from a comm for being Sinophobic? You do not give two shits about Chinese people, so quit fronting.

I know I’ve been spamming this image, but like if you’re just going to have a snoo pfp, what’s the point of even being here lol

China has gained an arrogance in thinking that it is too big to fail. It is a form of Trumpism on a national scale. One where it thinks it can just ignore normal restraints due to the influence it has on the world. Russia has woken the west up to this reliance on rogue states. There will be a slow move away from relying on China as a manufacturing base for cheaper goods. The EU and the US have already stated this publicly. If China continues on the path it is choosing then the west will close ranks. This is not in the interests of anyone globally.

Nobody is going to replace China as the manufacturing base. “B-b-b-but Vietnam” There’s like two Chinese provinces with a larger population than Vietnam. Vietnam can’t even replace two provinces individually, let along the entire country. “B-b-b-but India” India is the world’s provider of IT services, not a manufacturing juggernaut by any means. This manufacturing base is not going to poof into existence. And as for the Russian invasion of Ukraine, all it showed is that the West is far more vulnerable and the “rogue states” (ie the rest of the world) don’t need to concern themselves with the West for long. Why do you think so many Nigeriens are waving around Russian flags and why so many countries are tripping over themselves to join BRICS? Do you think it’s a coincidence that the Nigerien coup was launched while France is still recovering from domestic riots?

I remember Westerners malding African countries did better with Covid than them even though they have a lot of things going for them (young population, less densely populated, experience with handling pandemics).